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Doug, some comments at your request. I understand the specifics of legislation even less than general constitutional procedures, so these are questions I bring in part as a result of gaps in my own knowledge.

I don't know what "umbrella law" means. Is this an English expression that should make evident sense applied to Roman law? Could the first sentence read "The Lex Junia Licinia or Lex Junia et Licinia was an ancient Roman law enacted in 62 BC that … " etc.? And the 'umbrella' concept explained later? I take you mean it contains riders. (Incidentally, some scholars italicize the name of Romans laws, some don't; some capitalize Lex as a proper noun, some don't, and I always feel I'm applying on an ad hoc basis.)
You might elucidate "consular law" a little more clearly; it's named after the consuls of the year, and not just enacted during their consulship, because they actively sponsored it? Brought it to the people?
You should probably find another word, since you were wary enough of "shanghaied" to distance yourself from it by quotation marks. You also need to link "the people" to something that explains this as a Roman legal entity.
The ne clam procedure you describe: how is this the same or different from the usual steps of rogatio and promulgation?

I have a couple of sources on this relatively obscure law that I'll try to add. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:38, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have such good questions and points, that I'll do these one at a time as I look into them. I'm sure you are right here, I just have to get a handle on it.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 14:59, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First, agree and dropped "umbrella." IF you feel the name should be italicized, please feel free to edit it that way. IF you feel the "Lex" should NOT be capitalized, please feel free to edit it that way. I've seen it BOTH ways when I researched this. Don't know on these points which is most proper. You can chose as you wish, I'll agree as I am not that knowledgeable on this ancient stuff. --Doug Coldwell ^talk 15:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced "shanghaied" with "tricked" AND added "Roman legislation." Look alright?--Doug Coldwell ^talk 15:21, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your point on ne clam is completely new to me and since I don't know Latin, I'm having trouble answering your question. Found ne clam aerario legem inferri liceret here. To me, which I have little understanding on of this point, is that it is the same as rogatio and promulgation. Also found ""consular law" on this page 429. Perhaps you can help me further on these parts?--Doug Coldwell ^talk 16:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Did I cover all your points and questions?--Doug Coldwell ^talk 16:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks. I have no preference on the italicization or capitalization question for the names of laws, as I too have seen it both ways. I simply don't know what's best. I usually both capitalize (thinking of it as a proper noun like a book title) and italicize, on a perhaps false analogy with italicizing the names of court cases in legal texts. Haven't had a chance to add my small findings; this is a very obscure law. Cynwolfe (talk) 21:30, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your help on this. I just don't have a background on ancient Roman and Greek stuff, so can use all the help I can get.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:43, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]