Talk:List of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Tasmanian Devil

I accidentally messed up The Tasmanian Devil's main article. Can someone please fix it?

Bruno

In the section "The 1930s":

 A link to Bruno's page is incorrect (it points to Bosko)

82.208.195.216 23:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Unnamed Alien

This alien appears in Hare-Way to the Stars and Jumpin' Jupiter and probably other episodes. Did this have a name? Characters with fewer appearances seem to have been listed here. --Happypeepeehead (talk) 04:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know about you, but if you're talking about the bird-like aliens, then they're the Instant Martians; hence the name of the condiment. Be more specific. 46.161.237.76 (talk) 07:07, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Response to "Unnamed Alien"

The alien you speak of is actually a species of aliens called The Instant Martians. They are the tall, green, bird-like slaves of Marvin the Martian. I added them to the list, so that should answer your question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.174.21 (talk) 14:27, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Wilbur

In the 1930s, to which page does this (wilbur) point too. All you get is a disambiguation page.--Master Bob (talk) 06:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

There are several mistakes in the links here...

- - - On second thought, perhaps it needs to be made clear that the character can be found on these pages....

(1930's) Bruno (as said above) Cookie links to Buddy Fluffy links to Piggy Honey links to Bosko Little Kitty links to Beans

(1940's) Mazie the Bird links to Horton Hears a Who (although on this page, "Mayzie is listed") The Mynah Bird links to Inky —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.182.245.170 (talk) 03:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

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Tom And Jerry

Tom and Jerry are now Warner Bros owned since 98, does this make them looney tunes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabbyyellow (talk • contribs) 14:57, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Other Shows

Why Tiny Toon Adventures, Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain and Freakazoid are listed here; if all are of other shows?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.79.206.23 (talk • contribs)

Merge with individual character articles

Many Looney Tunes characters are not sufficiently individually notable to justify their own articles. As such, the following articles should be merged here: Willoughby the Dog, The Three Bears (Looney Tunes), Sylvester Junior, Spike the Bulldog and Chester the Terrier, Slowpoke Rodriguez, Ralph Phillips, Quick Brown Fox and Rapid Rabbit, Playboy Penguin, Piggy (Merrie Melodies), Pete Puma, Nasty Canasta, Merlin the Magic Mouse, Hector the Bulldog, Hatta Mari, Goopy Geer, Gabby Goat, Egghead, Jr. (Looney Tunes), The Crusher (Looney Tunes), Count Blood Count, Cool Cat, Conrad the Cat, Colonel Shuffle, Clyde Rabbit, Claude Cat, Charlie Dog, Cecil Turtle, Bunny and Claude, Blacque Jacque Shellacque, Beans (Looney Tunes), Beaky Buzzard, Babbit and Catstello, Melissa Duck, and Honey Bunny. Some of these characters, such as Piggy, are specific to Merrie Melodies. Nonetheless, Merrie Melodies and Loonie Tunes are so integrally entwined that characters from both should be listed on this article. Neelix (talk) 23:43, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Too many characters who have headlined their own short, for one thing. What caused you to decide upon these out of all the characters? - jc37 03:12, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I did searches on Google Books, Google News, and Google Scholar for each one individually and found that neither of the ones I have identified have significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Just because a character is the star of a short does not make the character notable. To which article merges are you objecting? Neelix (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Support - headlining their own short is not notability. Notability is vast coverage by reliable secondary sources, impact in popular culture, appearances or parodies in other media, etc. Take Darth Vader or Albus Dumbledore as examples. I don't think "Ralph Phillips" or "Beaky Buzzard" are as notable. --LoЯd ۞pεth 05:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Since there is no improvement of the characters to establish notability, I performed the mergers. The Wikipedia:Burden of evidence falls on those who claim the characters are notable enough to have separated pages. --LoЯd ۞pεth 03:04, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Where was the "merge"? You simply threw away a ton of content and turned all those pages into redirects. I'm reverting. --JaGa^talk 05:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'm done. I don't have a problem with an actual merge into the List article, but if that is decided upon, content should be lifted from the articles and placed in the list article. --JaGa^talk 06:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

BTW I'd say Nasty Canasta has appeared in enough shorts to merit keeping his own article. --JaGa^talk 06:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

So, regarding JaGa's concerns, I have performed actual mergers. I placed almost all content from every article merged. Sylvester Jr. remained in his father's article, while Nasty Canasta remains as a separated article. --LoЯd ۞pεth 23:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

How come Junyer Bear has a seperate article besides the existence of The Three Bears article? I think that article is extra don't you agree? It's not like Junyer Bear has ever been featured without Papa and Mama bears. And anyway that article repeats a lot of what the latter contains. If there's no doubt about the matter, removal of the article would be space conserving. Deltasim (talk) 09:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

There, the Junyer Bear article has been removed. No complaints I hope Deltasim (talk) 13:05, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Support Clyde Rabbit - Stumbled upon that one from Book:Fictional rabbits. Haven't looked at the other ones. Sven Manguard Wha? 07:11, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

In various Merrie Melodies there are two recurring characters which are a golden boxer dog with brown ears and white paws and white puppy with black patches. I don't know if they have names, but they are commonly called The Two Curious Puppies. They appear in five shorts, which definitely makes them notable enough for an individual article to be created if anyone is interested. The shorts they appear are: "Dog Gone Modern" (1939), "The Curious Puppy" (1939), "Stage Fright" (1940), "Dog Tired" (1942) and "Snow Time for Comedy" (1941 re-released 1952). Deltasim (talk) 20:30, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

err...

I dunno what happened here, but the entire body of material of Beaky Buzzard had been destroyed... whether that applies to other articles on the above list I don't know, but I hope not (I'll look into it presently). I guess what might have happened is the material was moved from Mr Buzzard's article over to here, then at some other time deleted from this article... or something. At any rate it was gone until I recovered it.

On the procedural side, I don't see sufficient discussion for the (de facto) deletion of an entire article (or articles). For that you'd want an AfD I think. Possibly an RfC.... I think AfD's the correct venue tho.

On the merits, I have only looked at Beaky Buzzard (so far) but no, I don't think that "vast coverage" is required for an article to exist... if it is, we got hella articles that need to go. We have to be reasonable here. Yes you are going to have fewer good scholarly references for minor popular culture entities than you are going to have for, I don't know, On The Origin of Species or whatever, but you have to adjust for that... Don Markenstein's Toonpedia is a a somewhat scholarly (in the pop culture sense) and quite reliable source, and it has an entry for Beaky Buzzard. I mean, jeez, we have an article on The Bashful Buzzard which is just one of Mr Buzzard's appearances, and to have the link in "...which featured Beaky Buzzard..." go nowhere... how does that help the reader? We do not have to worry about the expense of printing, people. Whether Mr Buzzard is an outlier or the only instance where this occurred I don't yet know, but I hope so. Herostratus (talk) 01:12, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

OK fine, Beaky Buzzard is clearly a big deal IMO. What about Willoughby the Dog. Here's a guy who had a very short career, who didn't even have a cameo in Space Jam and so on. His article is only a few sentences. (And the refs are bad, but there are better refs, which I guess I'll add in later on). He doesn't have his own IMDb page. And so on. What about him?

Well, his article has only a few sentences, but he co-starred in Of Fox and Hounds and The Heckling Hare which are larger articles; he had a short appearance in Nutty News and is mentioned in that article too. Add that together and there's a fair amount of material here on this particular dog.

How does it help the reader to throw much of this away, given that we don't have to worry about printing expenses? Each article does add some overhead cost -- vandalism patrol and so forth -- but not that much. Our mission is to make the internet not suck. In order to get all this info on Willoughby I had to look stuff up and go to various sites and so forth. How does it make the internet not suck to make other people go thru that if the happen to be interested in the subject? I don't get it. I restored the article. Take it AfD if you dislike it so much and good luck with that. I expect to restore all of these articles and no, I'm not going to curate and source them all (as I've done for Beaky and Willoughby); I have other interests. That doesn't mean the article are and will always be a detriment to the Wikipedia. Herostratus (talk) 22:57, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

After restoring and doing a bit of curating on The Three Bears (Looney Tunes), my guess is that many of these articles should go thru AfD before being deleted. So I'm going to restore them all. I've done my bit for fixing them, it's not my area of concentration, but I'm sure that many could be fixed up to make proper articles; those that aren't, anyone may recast them as redirects if they're incontrovertibly worthless and always will be, otherwise to AfD. Herostratus (talk) 01:45, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Comic characters never seen in animation

There are certain Looney Tune recurring characters from Dell comics that have not been shown in animation. Only Honey Bunny so far is listed. I think there should be a paragraph on the notable Cicero Pig, Porky's nephew and a paragraph on The Swamp Witch, Bugs Bunny's nemesis.

Deltasim (talk) 11:41, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I would love to help. I added Cicero Pig to the page, and I will probablyy update him again later. I will add The Swamp Witch to the page, but I need some information first.

Okay. I did it. I updated Cicero Pig and I added Cliffy the Clown and Little Beaver to the page. Now I just need to add The Swamp Witch, who I'm still looking information about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.174.23 (talk) 15:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

File:Frisky Puppy and Claude Cat.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

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What should I do?