Talk:Lynden Archer

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A fact from Lynden Archer appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 June 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 2016, Scientific American listed one of Lynden Archer's discoveries among their top-10 "world changing ideas" for that year?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lynden Archer.

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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 21:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Cornell University's Lynden Archer giving a lecture in January 2020.

Alternate image

~~... that Lynden Archer (pictured) has developed materials technologies to prevent the failure of lithium batteries?~~
- ALT1:~~... that Lynden Archer (pictured) has researched materials for new electrolytes, membranes, and electrodes to prevent the failure of lithium batteries?~~
- ALT2:~~... that Lynden Archer (pictured) was involved in the development of materials technologies that aimed to prevent the failure of lithium batteries?~~

Comment: I would suggest embedding a cropped image, such as {{CSS image crop|Image = Lynden Archer UCDavis.jpg|bSize = 600|cWidth = 250|oLeft = 165|oTop = 30}}

Created by AthalGolwen (talk). Self-nominated at 02:23, 28 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Hi AthalGolwen and thanks for your nomination. Before this is officially reviewed, I should mention that your proposed hook sounds a little promotional, as currently worded. While a variation of this hook can still be used, the wording "has developed" might be a little problematic, and I'd recommend changing it slightly. Could you suggest some additional hooks that can be used, any other facts that might be suitable? epicgenius (talk) 13:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was talking with Narutolovehinata5 on Discord, who suggested the following alt hook: "~~... that Lynden Archer (pictured) was involved in the development of material technologies that aimed to prevent the failure of lithium batteries?"~~. Feel free to correct this if it's wrong, or to suggest other hooks. epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for pointing this out Epicgenius! I just drafted another alternative hook and added both mine and yours and Narutolovehinata5's suggestion here. AthalGolwen (talk) 14:42, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Long enough, new enough, no copyvio issues. FWIW I prefer the ALT2 hook Gbawden (talk) 07:59, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've prepared a crop at File:Lynden Archer UCDavis (cropped).jpg, which may be better for the DYK picture. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 08:12, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but these hooks are hardly going to be of interest to a broad readership. In fact, they are so technical and multisyllabic as to be incomprehensible. I suggest that you add to the article which discovery Scientific American was talking about, and then write a hook like this:
ALT3: ~~... that in 2017, Scientific American listed one of Lynden Archer's discoveries among their top 10 ideas that will change the world?~~ Yoninah (talk) 22:55, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I added the info to the article and corrected the year in your suggested hook:
ALT3a: ~~... that in 2016, Scientific American listed one of Lynden Archer's discoveries among their top 10 ideas that will change the world?~~ AthalGolwen (talk) 00:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I see that you paraphrased the source, but your wording their top 10 ideas that will change the world is not encyclopedic. I thought it was the name of the list, but the name is "World Changing Ideas". So I suggest using the source wording in quotes as follows:
ALT3b: ... that in 2016, Scientific American listed one of Lynden Archer's discoveries among their top 10 "World Changing Ideas"?
Since I suggested the hook, another reviewer is needed for ALT3b. Yoninah (talk) 12:10, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3b sounds good. I'm assuming good faith here for the source since the Scientific American links are behind a paywall. Rest of the review per above. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]