Talk:Metabolic typing

This article was nominated for deletion on 19 April 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

Health Excel won the Registered Trademark for Metabolic Typing last year. They are now looking for people such as Harold Krystal to stop using the term Metabolic Typing.

Dr William kelley wrote about his pancreatic Cancer in his book "One Answer To Cancer"

I have written a few articles on Metabolic Typing at http://www.one2onenutrition.co.uk/articles/Metabolic-typing-articles.htm

I have not put the link in or edited the article as not sure how that fits with Wiki rules etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.205.51.98 (talk) 14:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Metabolic Typing was started by Dr. William Donald Kelley not William Wollcott. William Wollcott worked with doctor Kelley for some time then left to go his own way with a very different program. As a timeline for you, I have a copy of Dr. Kelley's Metabolic Self Test that was copy written in 1968 and there are earlier versions but even that is some 20 years before William Wollcott and Healthexcel.

I'd be happy to help correct this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.114.150.4 (talk • contribs).

Need more scientific data

This article is in need of expansion and inclusion of scientific data, with citations, assuming they exist (I could find none, but it was hardly an exhaustive search).

I removed the link to http://www.metabolictypingonline.com, as that was just an ad. Earthsound 22:51, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Completely uncritical, unbalanced article

This article appears to just be a walkign advertisement for the author of the book on this subject. I mean, where are the corroberative studies? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.86.6.69 (talk) 20:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Bah! Where is the mention that the dentist cured himself of pancreatic cancer? There is evidence that chemo and radiation DON'T work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.200.154.200 (talk) 20:22, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked for scientific corroboration of the claims made here, starting with the concept of a "metabolic type" and have found nothing. If it is valid then there should be studies proving this which could be cited. If the concept is invalid, either request deletion of the article or amend it to state that it is unproven and to be treated with suspicion. --TraceyR (talk) 21:59, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other kind of Metabolic 'Testing'

The 'EVA 3000' uses muscle reflexes to determine the Metabolic Type. Couldn't find any descent research on it either. http://www.horisan.de/ There must be some scientific research on this topic somewhere, anybody found some? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.84.216.238 (talk) 09:34, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Diet or therapy?

The article contains no references to reliable sources in the form of studies published in peer-reviewed journals. I could find nothing via Google other than people selling various diets and electronic analysis devices of dubious (i.e. undocumented) efficacy. Also it is unstructured - is it about Metabolic Typing or Matabolic Therapy? To me it looks like a candidate for deletion - the last (failed) deletion attempt in 2007 was not decisively in favour of keeping it. --TraceyR (talk) 19:51, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Helpful this was not deleted

I'm glad this article was not deleted. A copy of the book "The Metabolic Typing Diet" is currently passing through my hands so I started reading it and wondered what scientists thought of it, so naturally looked it up in this reputable encyclopaedia. While the article has lots of problems it is still very useful in alerting me to the "official" cautions and the lack of supporting evidence or even research. It's another example of why I'm advocating not deleting articles in most cases, even when badly written, because even a poor article, especially when tagged as such, is better than none as a starting point for anyone looking up the topic. Regards, Bricaniwi (talk) 03:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Metabolic company has a trademark

Am working on a page and cited this page (Kevin Lau). There is a school or company about metabolic typing here: http://www.healthexcel.com/ that may provide information for this page Suzwriter (talk) 02:57, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Critical source

The only critical source cited in the article seems to be Quackwatch (itself controversial and borderline as a reliable source (IMHO)). Is this just because serious scientists have better things to do with their time than to refute this ... er ... approach? Metabolic typing seems also to be of borderline notability. Does being controversial provide sufficient notability per se? --TraceyR (talk) 21:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Really, really bad article - but still useful!

This is a really, really bad article - but still useful!

Among its problems are:

A major confusion over the topic: is it the concept of metabolic typing or metabolic therapies? They are NOT the same! I've exposed this problem somewhat in my edit to the Effectiveness section today.
A distinct lack of citations for most statements.
A non-encyclopaedic tone, somewhat dismissive and occasionally even sneering.
An implicit but unstated criticism in a sideswipe at "... every branch of alternative medicine".

The article needs, at least, a complete rewrite. It should perhaps also split into two articles, one each for metabolic typing and for metabolic therapies.

But please don't delete this article, because as stated by another editor, it does supply some information, no matter how poorly, and therefore it can serve as a starting point for one or two really useful and encyclopaedic articles.

yoyo (talk) 05:28, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]