Talk:Michael Kelly (bishop)

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Anachronism?

The Holy Roman Empire was terminated in 1806; how was Bishop Kelly named a Count of the Holy Roman Empire in 1926? Could Popes do that? I am curious.

Lucio Mascarenhas <lucio.mascarenhas@gmail.com> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.94.148.210 (talk) 12:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, that's nonsense. Various English-language sources, it is true, state that Kelly was appointed assistant to the papal throne and at the same time count of the holy roman empire in 1926. The second statement, however, is based on a misunderstanding that may have its origins in Australia. The Holy Roman Empire, as is well known, fell in 1806, and honorary titles related to that empire have never been awarded again. In addition, popes have never bestowed imperial titles. Rather, Kelly's title of count is that of a Roman count (comes romanus / conte romano; Catholic Encyclopedia), which was regularly added to that of an assistant to the papal throne until abolished by Paul VI. --Rabanus Flavus (talk) 20:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]