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i think we need a few pictures in this page, isnt there a statue of vazeh in baku? can we not use that also? - Karabakh

too many pictures

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The whole article has too many pictures, this has caused the eyes to get tired after a while, I think the pictures should be less. Thanks Amir Ghandi (talk) 12:02, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for pointing out a way to improve the article. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 12:47, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mirza Shafi and Mirza Fatali Akhundov

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Another problem with the article is that Mirza Shafi's teacher-student relationship with the Iranian-Azerbaijani writer Mirza Fatali Akhundov is not mentioned. Mirza Shafi in his poems considers him wise, mature and has a searching mind to liberate his soul. (Maryam B. Sanjabi, Rereading the Enlightenment: Akhundzada and His Voltaire). Amir Ghandi (talk) 12:27, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any online accessible source that I can use to add about that? Or if you want, you can add it as well. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 12:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(http://www.visions.az/en/news/469/f54688b3/) (AZERBAIJANI WRITER MIRZA FATALI AKHUNDOV SUMMARY) (https://aqreqator.az/az/cemiyyet/435043) and (https://hafiztimes.com/anam-az%C9%99rbaycan-dilind%C9%99-danisir-m-f-axundzad%C9%99nin-yaponiyadaki-varisi-il%C9%99-ekskluziv-axundovun-varisi-parsinejad/) Almost all sources indicate that he had a teacher-student relationship and later a friendship with Akhundov.Amir Ghandi (talk) 13:03, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've added Akhundov's student status to the Mirza Shafi Vazeh#Teaching_in_Tiflis section. Thanks for the help. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 13:59, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I personally do not see any particular problem. Amir Ghandi (talk) 14:21, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Mirza Shafi Vazeh/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 07:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Starts GA Review; the review will follow the same sections of the Article. --Whiteguru (talk) 07:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 


Lede

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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • A reasonably good summary of the life and poetic works of Mirza Shafi Vazeh. I wonder about the inclusion of Ivan Grigoriev.

Life

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Birth Date

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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • Whereas other sources claim Mirza Shafi was born in 1794 in Ganja, a strong refutation and citation of sources is given in this section. The section concludes (sensibly) with citation by Mirza Shafi's commander-in-chief.

Early Life

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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • The Russian conquest of the Caucasus features the fall of Shafi's father to impoverishment and death. Several sources are cited in rounding a conclusion that Mirza Shafi was "a kind, simple man who was Tatar by origin, and Persian by upbringing".

Education

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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • It is well known that Shafi made enemies of most of the local clergy. The influence of Haji Abdullah is strong and noted with regard to Shafi's continuing education.

Teaching in Tiflis

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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • Multiple sources confirm that Shafi taught oriental languages and calligraphy. Here is the beginnings of a time wherein Shafi's influence on Divans of the future was slowly being transmitted. His time teaching in the Gymnasium is also cited by many sources.
Vazeh and Bodenstedt
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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • Bodenstedt made Shafi famous in Europe
  • Bodenstedt's hoax is also well known.

Death

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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • Not many sources cite the date nor the cause of death.
  • The location is often given some name of a garden.
  • Simple, and well scribed, well sourced.

Literary Activity

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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • The most important section of this article
  • Addresses the mystery of poems lost and found
  • Unfolds the history of translations
  • Unfolds the character and writing of Shafi

Legacy

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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • A good history, well illustrated.

Notes and References

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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • All examined; appropriate
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  1. Is it reasonably well written?
  • Noted


 


End Matter

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  1. Is it is Broad in its coverage?
  • Yes, this is exemplary in coverage and history, yet appropriately terse and concise.
  1. Is it Verifiable with no original research?
  • Yes.
  1. Does the article meet notability guidelines?
  • Yes
  1. Does it follow WP:NPOV Neutral Point of View?
  • Yes, quite so.
  1. Is it stable?
  • 957 page views in the last 90 days;
  • This page started life on 6 May 2006
  • Page has had 195 edits by 68 editors.
  • page is considered stable, no evidence of edit warring.
  1. Top editors are
    * CuriousGolden
    * Mike hayes
    * Twofingered Typist
    * Rathfelder
    * Interfase
  1. It is illustrated by images ?
  • There are many images, well laid out and appropriate to each section.
  • The legacy section images are both apt and very well laid out.
  • First image (a crop) is in the public domain, dated 1850
  • Battle of Ganja is dated 1893, so public domain.
  • Abbas mosque in Ganja is work of Dmitri Ivanovich Yermakov and claimed to be circa 1900.
  • Gymnasium image is from Poetry of Nikoloz Baratashvili, Permission=PD-Ol
  • Page from the Chrestomathy is dated 1852, extract from филиала Академии наук СССР, 1938
  • Poems of Mirza Shafi Vazeh is dated 1890, source is above.
  • Vazeh and Bodenstedt image is dated 1850, Tausend und ein Tag im Orient, 1850
  • Three images in the legacy section are Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International, and Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license.
  • All images are appropriate to the article.

Overall

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  • Well scribed

Conclusion

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