Talk:Occupied Territories

Adamsky, can you provide evidence that the term "Occupied Territories" used as a proper noun has any other meaning more common than the territories occupied by Israel since the June War? Palmiro | Talk 01:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Palmiro, as yet I haven't found any sources that capitalize both words quite as often as you suggest by the "used as a proper noun" part above. But many sources refer habitually to occupied territories in the Caucasus, the Himalayas and elsewhere. Maybe I'll track down some later, if they are very necessary. //Big Adamsky 01:39, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not massively worried about it, though I reserve the right to become so at a later stage, if the humour takes me. However, I´m pretty sure that the vast majority of well-informed English speakers, if asked what "the Occupied Territories" meant to them, would think of the 67 territories. Equally, those territories are very often referred to as "the Occupied Territories" tout court. Taking into account WP naming conventions, that would seem to support the argument that people who type "Occupied Territories" into the search box or the address field should end up at the article about those territories. But if they end up at the "Occupied territories" article instead, where they will see a redirect notice to the other article, I don't see any great problem with that. Actually, I think it's a bit silly to have articles on entirely different topics where the "subjects" of the articles differ from each other only by capitalisation or use of singular/plural (cf Israeli settlement v. Israeli settlements). Palmiro | Talk 04:49, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. Well, as you will have likely noticed, I do not disagree with you on the Israeli settlement(s) issue quite as much. I am, however, against the practice of applying a generic name to a specific ocurrance as if to suggest that it is the only such ocurrence (and not just that it is the original or best known such ocurrence). (This is a minor edit). ;] //Big Adamsky 05:12, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]