Talk:Organoboron chemistry
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I would suggest that this artical is structured a little better and maybe expanded. I can do this, but I've spent too much time on here already today and my organic exam is on wednesday (oh dear) on this kinda topic.
I would also suggest that organo boranes are different from boranes and the other borazine compounds - again I can help write them seeing as i have know a little about the theory etc and am hoping that that kind of thing will be my specialization next year/year after
Any suggestions?
- by all means go ahead, Wiki welcomes specialists on this topic. The article should be about organoboron chemistry as a whole. See for similar pages Organosulfur chemistry and organophosphorus chemistry V8rik 21:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Synthesis
[edit]Although Brown and Wittig received the Nobel prize together, as far as I know neither one helped the other in their important discoveries - Wittig for the Wittig Reaction, and Brown for the hydroboration reaction. Should remove Wittig as a Brown helper. ChemistHans 21:30, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Why is there a section about carbon?
[edit]If you go to the Organoboron chemistry#See Also section, there is a heading called "Compounds of carbon with other elements in the periodic table" and a diagram of the periodic table, each with a link to each element bonded to carbon. This is useful, but why is it in this article? This should be moved to another article; the "See Also" section is only supposed to have links, not this much info. Llightex (talk) 09:17, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
- The diagram exists because the way other elements interact with carbon is relevant for the way boron interacts with carbon. The diagram could be redesigned as a template positioned below the references that can be hidden or shown just like any template. V8rik (talk) 16:41, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, I understand how it's supposed to work now. It should be redesigned as a template, though, as it seemed odd to me as it was in the See Also section. Llightex (talk) 06:31, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Application in self-healing membranes
[edit]A fascinating U.Michigan/NASA effort, discussed at: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acsmacrolett.5b00315 http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-08/acs-smc082615.php
A millimetre layer of thiol–ene–trialkylborane resin between panels. When punctured by microbolides, bullets, or whatever the resin flows into the hole, where it reacts with escaping oxygen to solidify in seconds. LeadSongDog come howl! 17:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- The area is fascinating to me also, but there is a ton of literature on similar self-healing materials. So I recommend adhering to WP:NOTNEWS, and cite reviews. --Smokefoot (talk) 17:06, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
What is important and what is niche
[edit]Here is the listing of the classes of organoboron compounds in this article with some comments:
2 Classes of organoboron compounds
- 2.1 Organoboranes and hydrides super-useful (Nobel Prize to HCBrown) many applications in synthesis
- 2.2 Borinic and boronic acids and esters (BRn(OR)3-n) super-useful: Suzuki reaction (Nobel Prize to Akira Suzuki) and many useful borates
- 2.3 Boron clusters not used for anything
- 2.4 Bora-substituted aromatic compounds not used for anything
- 2.5 Boryl compounds not used for anything
- 2.6 Alkylideneboranes not used for anything
- 2.7 NHC adducts of boron not used for anything
- 2.8 Diborenes super-niche, not used for anything
So, I have nothing against butterfly collecting, but we need to be careful to convey some perspective. --Smokefoot (talk) 23:33, 1 October 2023 (UTC)