Talk:Oskar Kokoschka

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Untitled

interesting fact. He applied in vienna for art academy together with Adolf Hitler. Hitler got rejected, angry and started ww2.. http://www.ralphmag.org/DS/why.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.48.162.83 (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

____________ Sorry, forgot log-in details... just a quick note suggesting that someone with interest and knowledge should really spend a few hours on overhauling and developing this page. As of now, there is very little about the events and the works of OK's later years. It's true that this emphasis on his early (and most deeply eccentric) art is the usual way he's dealt with... but this short-changes OK's accomplishments and his significance. His stature calls for a gallery of 25-30 paintings, with 15-20 from 1920s-1970s, and some discussion of how his styles evolved during almost eight decades as a serious and productive artist.

The chronology and details of the only period of his life that gets any attention after his schooling may be inaccurate. It now says: °Kokoschka had a passionate, often stormy affair with Alma Mahler. It began in 1912, shortly after the death of her four-year-old daughter Maria Mahler and her affair with Walter Gropius. After several years together, Alma rejected him, explaining that she was afraid of being too overcome with passion.″ If I remember rightly, OK himself (in A Sea Ringed With Visions) seems to say that an abortion is what marked the end of his affair with Alma Mahler (he didn't approve of her decision) and that this experience is what led him to sign up for military service. This would be 2, at most 3 years after the affair began. I don't recall reading anywhere that the relationship was ever revived during or after the war. Thus "several years" is not the right duration. Another quibble is that the beginning of the affair came after Alma's fling with Walter Gropius and after the death of Alma's daughter Maria. But Maria Mahler lived from 1902 to 1907. It was—along with the revelation of Alma's adultery with Gropius—one of several very painful experiences that hastened the death of Alma's husband, the great musician Gustav Mahler, which took place in May 1911, when GM was just 50. It hardly makes sense to mention Maria (d. 1907) without mentioning Gustav (d. 1911) . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.202.18 (talk) 07:24, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Mörder, Hoffnung der Frauen

Why is the play Mörder, Hoffnung der Frauen translated into English for the play Murderer, the Hope of Women, but left in German for the opera Mörder, Hoffnung der Frauen? Is there a WP style for that? --Nbauman (talk) 15:50, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Veronica's Veil

Veronica's Veil. 1911. 1206 × 807 mm. Museum of Fine Arts, Budapest

I've uploaded Google Art Project's image of Kokoschka's Veronica's Veil at File:Oskar Kokoschka - Veronica's Veil - Google Art Project.jpg (see right). Feel free to use if useful. Dcoetzee 06:53, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Publication date for the Lotte Franzos image?

Can anyone provide a publication date pre-1923 for this image i.e. an example of an illustration of it before 1923, so that its PD status in the US can be confirmed. Discussed over at my Talk page here. The following is the relevant passage:

"Regarding these files, what was originally queried here was their potential for copyright revival. I queried that at both the Teahouse and at a forum devoted to copyright issues and I was able to establish definitively that no there was no question of copyright revival for pre-1923 works in the US. I therefore considered the issue resolved as above.

But an editor at the Teahouse, not an expert in copyright issues, felt it incumbent on him to query the publication issue. Under the Berne Convention a work of art is not considered published until it is illustrated. One can reasonably infer that for a famous work of art, their publication is more or less synonymous with their creation. In the case of the Kokoschka I was able to provide the editor with a detailed list of its publication and exhibition history starting 1910 from an Immunity from Seizure filing by the National Gallery, London, in connection with its ongoing exhibition, but the editor rejects that as proof of publication.

I don't have the resources, nor the access to the expensive databases required (they are maintained in great detail by auction houses), to provide the evidence this editor requires. I will make a special effort in the case of the Kokoschka, but I doubt I will be successful. This of course was Kokoschka's first major work. It was immediately controversial and it's scarcely conceivable it was not illustrated in the critical reviews of the time.

That's the best I can do. As far as I can ascertain no work of art created before 1923 has ever had its PD status in the US challenged over the publication issue. It is case law that above all determines copyright law.

Incidentally Commons has allowed the Kokoschka image. You can find it here."

Help greatly appreciated. I really love this painting and would like to see it reproduced in Wikipedia. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 13:27, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Too few pictures, 4

Four, on Jun 28 2020. Szozdakosvi (talk)

Assessment comment

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Needs at least a decent bibliography, and maybe a better photo. Burzmali 16:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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proof reading

It's a very interesting article: I just did a little proof reading.86.252.18.79 (talk) 06:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

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• Bundesarchiv B 145 Bild-F026091-0009, Konrad-Adenauer-Briefmarke nach Kokoschka-Gemälde.jpg

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