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Some proposed changes

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Information to be added or removed: Request removal of warning template "This article contains wording that promotes the subject in a subjective manner without imparting real information." Explanation of issue: Article was cleaned up and promotional narrative removed. This was a UNAID edit in good faith with COI policies and an effort to improve Wiki content. Jay Bestille (talk) 21:12, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 26-DEC-2018

Please consult assigning editor

On a separate issue, please clarify whether or not your editing here constitutes a conflict of interest. On your user page you have indicated that you have no COI with respect to the Peter Mel article. By using the {{request edit}} template here you are suggesting otherwise, since the template is designed primarily for use by COI editors.^[a]
With respect to the maintenance template, it is recommended that, as a courtesy, you first try asking the editor who assigned the template — in this case Melcous — in order to find out from them if it can be removed. Since they placed the template, they are in the best position to know whether or not the issues which caused its placement have been corrected. You may contact them by placing a new message on their talk page.
In the unlikely event that you do not hear back from them after a reasonable amount of time has passed, please reopen this request by altering the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no. Thank you!
Regards, Spintendo 22:24, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

^ Despite guidance which suggests COI editors should not review other COI editor's articles, there is no blanket rule which forbids editing another COI editor's articles, in which case the requesting editor would have every right to remove the template themselves if they believed the issues flagged by it were resolved. If the requesting editor is simply trying to stay well within those guidances, then I thank them for their efforts, and suggest they follow my guidance in the remainder of my review above.

Thanks for the ping, Spintendo. I have just removed a bunch of external links from the article, but I would suggest there is still quite a bit of work to be done before the template can be removed. For starters the heading 'notoriety" is not neutral; the list of "major" achievements in the infobox is excessive and just a replication of the list later in the article (and also completely unsourced). The whole article is still written using wording that is both unsourced and non-neutral and non-encyclopaedic like "gained notoriety", "less than fond of", "expected to do well", "established himself", "most reputable", "flawless waves" etc etc etc. Melcous (talk) 22:59, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Melcous for the suggestions. I believe I have nearly every statement and contest wins cited. Much was removed.

Just as a side note about professional surfing sources; surfing is not as covered in the United States as well as it is in Australia and other surf-heavy countries. Thus, mainstream media does not publish much about these athletes. However, they're notoriety amongst fans of the profession is ample and many of these athletes are in motion pictures and documentaries (HBO's Momentun, 2018, being one of them). Thus I try my best to cite as much domestic press as possible with great care to avoid advertorial or promotional content. Thank you! Jay Bestille (talk) 02:36, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Despite guidance which suggests COI editors should not review other COI editor's articles, there is no blanket rule which forbids editing another COI editor's articles, in which case the requesting editor would have every right to remove the template themselves if they believed the issues flagged by it were resolved. If the requesting editor is simply trying to stay well within those guidances, then I thank them for their efforts, and suggest they follow my guidance in the remainder of my review above.

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