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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 22, 2010.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that "Pretty Baby...." is the first soap opera episode to feature just a single character?

Cool

I was going to do its own section in the Dot article, but I thin a summary section and link to the article in the development will suffice now.GunGagdin ^Moan 19:01, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw that, it's good and needed mentioning. However, a lot of the reception for that episode, including her BAFTA nomination, is written in the reception area. Maybe some of that could be cut down, especially stuff about the episode as a whole rather than just Dot or Brown's performance, and the BAFTA nomination has two mentions in that article now. anemoneprojectors talk 19:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah we can now focus it on Dot in the reception with the single-hander stuff.GunGagdin ^Moan 20:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I thought you would mention the monologue stuff in the Relationships/Jim section. anemoneprojectors talk 20:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could go there, but I think its notable enough to get its own section, linking to this page. Dont you?GunGagdin^Moan 22:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Either way is good really. I'll leave it to you. anemoneprojectors talk 23:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My recent edit

Nice article. I came here from DYK. Because the link to the article for the list of two-handed episodes is used in the article in the Production section, there is no need to include it in a SEEALSO section.

One other thing, EastEnders episodes aren't usually titled (or they weren't last time I watched an episode, ca. early 2006). Is there a reference for this episode's title? Regards, Matthewedwards : Chat 06:11, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! When I added the See also section originally, the link wasn't in the article, just forgot to take it out. Episodes aren't usually titled, but the script shows this episode's title. anemoneprojectors talk 10:56, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: JuneGloom07 Talk? 21:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC) Okay, this is a nice article, well done. There are no Dab links, Checklinks shows no dead or broken refs, the external links are fine and the image has the appropriate rationale.[reply]

A few things to be fixed -

Lead:

There appears to be a random The Guardian's floating around in the lower half. I assume another sentence was going to be written or was mostly removed.
- Do you mean The Guardian's Gareth McLean? Gareth McLean writes for The Guardian. anemoneprojectors talk 22:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At the end of the lead, just before it mentions June Brown's award nomination; The Guardian's Brown received... - JuneGloom07 Talk? 22:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah. I forgot you were refering to the lead. I searched "guardian" though and didn't find it! anemoneprojectors talk 22:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception:

Jim Shelley from Daily Mirror praised... - It looks like a 'the' is missing.
Reviews were not uniformly positive, however. - Can the 'however' be moved to the front of the sentence?
- Done both of those. anemoneprojectors talk 22:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Award nomination:

Coronation Street should be linked
- Done. anemoneprojectors talk 22:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References:

The work and publisher fields need to all be linked or delinked to keep consistency.
- Done, I could only see one (The Guardian) anemoneprojectors talk 22:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some publishers are missing, eg BBC News is published by the BBC, The Telegraph by Telegraph Media Group, The Stage by The Stage Newspaper Limited, etc.
- Done, but I haven't used the work field for BBC News as it shouldn't be italic. I actually changed to BBC News Online as I had two references from there, one with "Online" and one without, and BBC News Online seems more accurate. anemoneprojectors talk 22:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Times is actually published by Times Newspapers Ltd (I only recently learnt that one myself).
- Done anemoneprojectors talk 22:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now, June, where exactly would you learn the publisher of The Times? I can't see any reason not to pass this, but if you give me a minute, I'm sure I can find something! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- There's nothing that would hold the GAN back, however, when you're dealing with attribution of quotes, it's better to be consistent with "person of place" or "place's person" (HJ Mitchell of Wikipedia v Wikipedia's HJ Mitchell). Also "The Guardian" is used several times very close together in the reception section. Like I say, nothing that would hold it back, but worth looking at. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes HJ, I learnt the The Times' publisher from you. Anemone, I'm happy to pass the article. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 23:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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