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The text about the castle was copied word by word from ArchNet. That's crazy. Done by anonymous editor (he knew why). No time to deal with it. Added some info.

Besides, ArchNet did a VERY poor job, mixing up names (Creswell calls Qasr al-Hallabat "Qusayr al-Hallabat", but it's one and the same site) and possibly structures: that mosque at a distance of "1400 metres to the east" is nowhere else to be found except at ArchNet. The only associated mosque regularly mentioned is the one right next to the qasr, 15 m to the SE, certainly not 1400 to the E - I am pretty sure that this is just a plain mix-up. Or does anyone know of a lonely mosque in the landscape, two-thirds of the way between Hallabat and Sarah?Arminden (talk) 00:44, 31 December 2015 (UTC)ArmindenArminden (talk) 00:44, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

5 (!) years later - same sh... Nobody seems to care. Arminden (talk) 21:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody seems to care. Huge problem, as

  1. ArchNet copyrights have been blatantly disregarded
  2. ArchNet has proven to be unreliable, so questions arise at every step of the way. A reliable source is urgently needed.

No 2nd mosque: ArchNet has gotten it wrong. No other source mentions a 2nd mosque at "1400 m east of the palace", just one 14 (!) m SE of it.

"Recent reconstruction works have added back the collapsed elements."

Collapsed? Is that a fact? At nearby Hammam Sarah, much of the masonry was pilfered after 1950 to build new houses. Here it wasn't? Were the stones found laying among the ruins? No source is indicated, not even our beloved ArchNet. Arminden (talk) 15:49, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The modern town doesn't belong here; Hammam as-Sarah does

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The topic is the world-famous Umayyad castle. The modern town should be separated from this article. The inbox is hugely weighed down and complicated by the town-related ballast: WHOSE establishment date, history, leaders, etc.? The two are far too distinct from each other to be dealt with together.

Hammam as-Sarah, on the other hand, is part of the same Umayyad complex (same date, same architect & building technique, related purpose) and only a short distance away. That article is little more than a stump and should be made part of this.

Any comments please? Arminden (talk) 16:49, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]