Talk:Richard M. Karp
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[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved Kotniski (talk) 11:53, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Richard Karp → Richard M. Karp — Since there is another Richard Karp, also reasonably well-known in computing circles, also active around the same time period ('60s and '70s Arpanet), who might be confused with the more famous Karp, I think we ought to rename Richard Karp to Richard M. Karp, then make Richard Karp a redirect to Richard M. Karp. IMHO a disambiguation page is not necessary; the hatlink to "not confuse with Richard A. Karp" is sufficient. But it's weird to have a hatlink on Richard A. Karp that says, "For Richard M. Karp, see Richard Karp."
Meanwhile, Orangemike has deleted my stub article on Richard A. Karp, but hopefully it'll be reappearing soon; I've left a note on his Talk page. --Quuxplusone (talk) 01:23, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:The other article has already been deleted as an A7 (Article with no crediable claim of importance) so I think it would be best to make sure that the other article can be sourced well enough to survive an AFD first since if it can't the move would be completely unneeded. That said I have no idea if was a correct use of A7, a complete mistake or simply a badly written article about a notable subject so I will do not plan to support or oppose at this time.--76.66.180.54 (talk) 02:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
I missed the last part though I think wating for a posible AFD may be a good idea.--76.66.180.54 (talk) 02:52, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- I don't buy the "it's weird" argument for this proposed move. Why would we need a hatlink on Richard A. Karp, regardless of what the article on the more famous Karp is called? See WP:NAMB. —David Eppstein (talk) 02:54, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- Well, IMHO we'd need some indication in Richard A. Karp that there's another Richard Karp article out there (and not a duplicate, but a separate person). We could get by without one, but I would think it makes sense. BTW, David (or any other admin-type reading this), could you undelete Richard A. Karp so people can see what we're talking about? --Quuxplusone (talk) 03:48, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- I'd prefer not to undelete it since I'm not convinced the A7 speedy was wrong. But most of the same things are repeated here. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:31, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- Well, IMHO we'd need some indication in Richard A. Karp that there's another Richard Karp article out there (and not a duplicate, but a separate person). We could get by without one, but I would think it makes sense. BTW, David (or any other admin-type reading this), could you undelete Richard A. Karp so people can see what we're talking about? --Quuxplusone (talk) 03:48, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Oppose citations appear to almost exclusively refer to this person as Richard Karp, not Richard M. Carp. We don't traditionally add in middle initials as a method of disambiguation, if they are not common employed in sources. If disambiguation is necessary (and I personally don't see it being so) it would be best to do so through parentheses disambiguation, not the insertion of a middle initial. --Labattblueboy (talk) 18:34, 19 December 2010 (UTC)- Support On a secondary review, my analysis was WAY off. So shockingly off that I am going to appoligize for having written my first comment in the first place. Quantling is bang on. His papers, going back as far as 1962, consistently employing the initial[1]. How I missed the fact that his home page at Berkely[2] employs the initial is beyond me. I found one paper from 1985[3] 2001[4] and 2003[5] where he did not use the initial, but these seem out of the norm. In my jstor search, I made the mistake of confusing him with a Richard Karp in the biology field.--Labattblueboy (talk) 21:24, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
- FWIW, a decent amount of his work since the early 1990's has been in computational biology, so the Richard Karp you found in biology may be one and the same as this article's Richard M. Karp. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 13:30, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
In case it is sufficiently relevant … Richard M. Karp uses his middle initial in his journal publications. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 15:59, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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