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House of Montfort and House of Blois?

How come this obsolete typically French version of History is still being used? The succession was disputed between two princes of the House of Brittany, namely:

-John of Montfort, named after a title received from his mother, who was the brother of late Duke John III (and then his son, also named John of Montfort) and

-Joan of Penthièvre, named after the appanage of Penthièvre which was given to her father Guy, brother of late Duke John III, Joan was therefore the niece of John III of Brittany.

Both John of Montfort and Joan of Penthièvre were grandchildren of Duke Arthur II. And while Joan's husband, Charles of Blois, would lead her army as her duke de jure uxoris, Joan was the real duchess, actually governed Brittany, was the only heir and both her husband and the Breton aristocracy fought for her rights. The House of Blois had nothing to do in that matter. A Breton duchess always remained the sole sovereign de suo jure and should she die, one of her children would be declared duke or duchess while her husband would lose any right to be titled Duke of Brittany (as shown by Eon of Porhoët husband of Bertha of Brittany, Pierre Mauclerc, husband of Alix of Brittany or even François I, husband of Claude of France, daughter of Anne of Brittany)

The version which presents an opposition between the House of Blois and that of Montfort is both inaccurate and dated, chauvinist some might even argue... nearly caricatural in fact. Time to dust the old myths. Maeldan Mor (talk) 16:59, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]