Talk:Sailor Song (song)

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A fact from Sailor Song (song) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 November 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the lyrics of Gigi Perez's "Sailor Song" were criticized by far-right conservative Christian communities?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gigi Perez.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 14:45, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that following criticism from far-right conservative Christian communities over a lyric in "Sailor Song", Gigi Perez replied that her songwriting was "not a democracy"? Source: https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/who-is-gigi-perez-new-artist-blowing-up-with-viral-hit-sailor-song/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024), Template:Did you know nominations/Queer advocacy in the Israel–Hamas War

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk), Ss112 (talk), MC-123 (talk), and Heartleap (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 250 past nominations.

Laun chba ller 09:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting: - Not a super surprising thing for a songwriter to say

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: Recognize that QPQs are coming up, so this is a bit early; only issue is I feel like the hook could be a bit more interesting. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposing ALT1: "... that songwriter Gigi Perez first went viral for a song on TikTok, where she had begun to upload videos to cope with her grief?". Maybe Gigi Perez could use ALT1, and Sailor Song could use ALT0, if it is possible to add two DYKs with one nomination? Also, since I'm new, if anyone wanted to double-check my copyvio checking that would be appreciated (not that I think there is any). Mrfoogles (talk) 17:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You can definitely split up a nomination post hoc - see Talk:Lucy Tun for one such example - however hook interestingness does not depend on topic, so if it isn't good enough for Gigi, it won't be good enough for Sailor Song. I've taken the liberty of renumbering your ALT0a to ALT1 as it introduces new information, and would suggest ALT1a: that the "Sailor Song" songstress Gigi Perez first began uploading content to TikTok to cope with grief? - but you will still need a new reviewer for that. I do however wonder if it's worth leaving 'not a democracy' out of ALT0 and running the rest, i.e. ALT0a: ... that the lyrics of Gigi Perez's "Sailor Song" received criticism from far-right conservative Christian communities?--Laun chba ller 22:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I have no idea what you mean by "QPQs are coming up" - I've done everything required by WP:DYKRI.--Laun chba ller 15:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mrfoogles: Please address the above.--Laun chba ller 17:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Okay, you could have just asked: we're all volunteers here. I think that when I first reviewed you were only partway through the reviews, so I figured that it probably wasn't time yet. QPQs do look done now; going to leave this to another reviewer to pick the hook. Personally I think ALT0a sounds fine, but I like ALT1 a lot (the exact phrasing might not be perfectly, but I think it's interesting): maybe if it was split, ALT0a could be used without Gigi Perez bolded, and then ALT1 for the second DYK? Otherwise, if they are not split, ALT0a seems good.

Mrfoogles (talk) 18:10, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles are both eligible. Since it was nominated as a double nomination, I would prefer it run as one so Alt0a looks like a good option. But they are all technically approved.--N Ø 04:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]