Talk:Saison

Source needed for Saisons being particularly brewed in the USA

What sources are there to verify the claim that saisons are particularly brewed in the USA? This seems like a very tenuous claim to me, for a beer that originates in Wallonia. There needs to be a source that proves that more saisons are being brewed in the USA, or the statements should be removed. anonymous 12:32, 5 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.223.118 (talk)

Two sources added. Thanks for bringing that up. There are only a handful of breweries in Belgium making saisons, but there are hundreds in America. There are also more breweries making stout in America than in Ireland or London. Etc. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 23:49, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Source needed for "five litres each workday"

The article claims that "They [saison beers] were served to farm workers who were entitled to up to five litres each workday.[1]" The citation is to page 711 of "The Oxford Companion to Beer", however, I have that book in front of me, and there is no reference to the amount of beer to which farm workers were entitled, on page 711, or anywhere else in the article on saison, which spans pages 711 and 712. It appears that the original (also unsupported) claim was that workers were entitled to "half a dozen pints", which was later changed (without explanation) to "five liters", and, later, to "five litres".— Preceding unsigned comment added by John6561 (talk • contribs)

Hi John, some of the citations appear to be mixed up in the article, I don't have the time at the moment to clean them up, but it looks like the author Phil Markowski is listed as the author of several sources. Whether that is accurate or not, I am unsure, but I found a source that I have re-added that lists the reference for that statement (with some wording clarification). Neil916 (Talk) 17:19, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Seems to be promoting a myth - better citation needed

The article states about saison beer: 'In the Middle Ages, the low-gravity beer was served as a clean source of hydration for workers who consumed up to five liters per day' which implies the all-too-common myth that Middle Ages people would drink beer in order to avoid consuming unclear water. The citation is a book by a brewers association which is not very authoritative. I recommend reformulating or finding a more scholarly citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.161.119.186 (talk) 23:19, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

In fact, it is troubling to find that all of the citations in this article are taken from a less than scholarly publication outlet: Brewers Publication. The information of this article needs to be better sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.161.119.186 (talk) 23:24, 15 February 2019 (UTC)