Talk:St Stithians College
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St Stithian's College
[edit]What, no apostrophe? Paul Beardsell 16:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- Strangely enough, no. I don't know the reason for it, but there is definitely no apostrophe used, as you can see on their own website and official stationary. — Impi 19:33, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Similarly they don't use a full stop after St on their own web site. But that, at least, is correct. Abbreviations ending in the last letter of the word being abbreviated don't take a period. But here we make both mistakes. Paul Beardsell 19:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'll change it in a minute to remove the period. Still, I wouldn't call it incorrect, as it's actually a difference between American and British English. In the US (and Canada), St receives a period while it doesn't in Britain and its other former colonies. A minor point, perhaps, but it's worth noting that the rule you mentioned isn't universal. — Impi 20:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- "and its former colonies" Paul Beardsell 22:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- What exactly is your problem? The United States and Canada are both former British colonies yet they use a different style, so saying "its other former colonies" is correct. — Impi 22:30, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- I meant to point out that the school is in a place where this rule applies. Not in the USA. When you correct me, or attempt to, by pointing out an irrelrvant detail, and do so repetitively, then who has the problem? All I want is a better encyclopedia. Paul Beardsell 13:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- But there was no dispute over that, I had already said I would be changing the article to reflect the British style of usage. So why the need to point out something I had already said, in an attempt to convince me to do something I had already stated I was going to do? — Impi 15:57, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- You read into my words things I do not say. You assume motivations I do not have. You question what I say and yet accept it also. I quote you: "What exactly is your problem?" Is that fighting talk? Paul Beardsell 16:09, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- If you seek to be better understood, I would suggest making less use of ambiguous one-sentence replies. — Impi 16:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- And if you intend to make friends... Paul Beardsell 16:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- My intention has never been otherwise. Your comments have not made me angry, but rather perplexed. After all, this does seem to be a fairly silly way to be spending our time, seeing as though we're in agreement on the article itself. — Impi 17:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I was schooled a St Stithans College, and the way User:Impi has changed it to is the way we ask to write it by the school. Thanks for making the change Impi. Gary van der Merwe 20:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- How did they explain the missing apostrophe? Paul Beardsell 00:39, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- It appears the school is named after the town of Stithians in the United Kingdom, which was the home town of one of the founders. Because it's a geographical location and not the name of a person, it does not take a possessive apostrophe. As such, stylistically it should be seen as the same as names like "Linden High School" or "Eton College" as opposed to schools named after actual saints like St John's College.
- It's definitely a weird choice of name, but I'm guessing it arose from a desire to adopt a "St" prefix in order to look better in superficial comparisons with pre-existing competitor private schools while still avoiding any hagiography which may have conflicted with the school's Methodist backing. — Impi 07:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- The name was not chosen "in order to look better in superficial comparisons with pre-existing competitor private schools." The name was chosen because it was the birth place of Albert Collins, one of the founders of the school. Gary van der Merwe (Talk) 14:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Erm, see my post just below yours, dating from 2006, when this was all cleared up. — Impi (talk) 16:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- The name was not chosen "in order to look better in superficial comparisons with pre-existing competitor private schools." The name was chosen because it was the birth place of Albert Collins, one of the founders of the school. Gary van der Merwe (Talk) 14:37, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, discount that theory. It would appear that the town of Stithians is alternatively referred to as St Stythians, named after an obscure saint who nobody knows much about. So it would appear that the founders of Saints combined the two forms of the name to come up with a slightly more unique version for the school. — Impi 13:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
As a current student, I can confirm that there is no apostrophe or period. The name "Stithian" (as in the village) apparently comes from "St Yannes" or something. So St Stithians actually is Saint Saint Yannes(or whoever is was), so no period. Kinda odd, I'll admit. Anyway nice to see our school here! Jon Paul Janet 19:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
The school is named after the village of Stithians, which itself does not have an apostrophe. The following may help in explaining the origin:
"The parish of Stithians (or Stythians), (Cornish: Sen Stedhyans), is in the Deanery and Hundred of Kerrier. It is bounded on the north by Gwennap, on the east by Perranarworthal and St Gluvias, on the south by Mabe and Constantine, and on the west by Wendron. The name is taken from the dedication of the church to St Stithian. The little River Kennel (Tretheage) rises near Carn Meneles and intersected the parish. In the 19th century, the river worked a number of flour mills, and machinery at a foundry and paper works. On its course into Restronguet Creek, it was thought to have turned forty water wheels." [1] SteveH (talk) 04:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Alumni
[edit]Did Jonathan Trott attend St Stithians? Apart from his name being spelled wrong his own Wikipedia page lists him as attending Rondebosch.
Dave Rundle represented SA in two ODI cricket matches in 1994. He also played in an unofficial test against Mike Gatting's rebel England team. Is this enough to be considered "notable"? I remember him and Roy Pienaar planting trees at the school in 1991 to commemorate international caps. We also got a day off to watch a match at the Wanderers!
David Terbrugge played 7 tests and 4 ODIs (cricket) for SA.
Billy Stelling represented The Netherlands at cricket and played 15 ODIs. I seem to remember that he played rugby at first class level too (for Western Province?) but have no source for that! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.36.77 (talk) 20:19, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
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