Talk:Steele's Greenville expedition

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Review: January 7, 2023. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Steele's Greenville expedition appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 February 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that some historians believe that Steele's Greenville expedition marked a shift in the Union's war policy?

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 11:23, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Will take this up. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 11:23, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion

Prose Suggestions

Please note that almost all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion. Any changes I deem necessary for the article to pass GA standards I will bold.

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The Greenville expedition has been given as an example of Union war policy shifting more towards expanding the war to Confederate social and economic structures and the Confederate homefront. somewhat awkward phrasing, perhaps Some historians have suggested that the Greenville expedition represented the Union war policy shifting more towards expanding the war to Confederate social and economic structures and the Confederate homefront.
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Background

Have made some copyedits here. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 22:17, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Expedition

These new regiments were to be led by white officers, and about 500 African-Americans volunteered for the service. perhaps reverse to About 500 African-Americans volunteered for the service, placed in new regiments to be led by white officers.
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Many of the plantations in the area were burned given that they were under orders to burn unpopulated plantations, perhaps a slight change to Many of the inhabited plantations in the area were burned would better explain the deviancy from orders?
- Unfortunately, the sources aren't direct about this. The ignoring of orders not to bother peaceable civilians also involved random plundering (one source mentions them locking people up in rooms while they stole stuff)
@Hog Farm: that is all of my suggestions, passing now. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 22:29, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 09:19, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that some historians believe that Steele's Greenville expedition marked a shift in the Union's war policy? Source: Shea, William L.; Winschel, Terrence J. (2003). Vicksburg Is the Key: The Struggle for the Mississippi River. Lincoln, Nebraska: University of Nebraska Press. ISBN 978-0-8032-9344-1. Page 92.
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Improved to Good Article status by Hog Farm (talk). Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk) at 15:02, 11 January 2023 (UTC).[reply]

Substantial article, meeting of GA criteria implicates DYK pass. Article was nominated within 7 days of passing GAR. No pings on Earwigs. Hook is cited and short enough; "some historians" is a little wobbly, but nonetheless I think the hook is interesting and policy compliant. AGF on offline source. Morgan695 (talk) 16:58, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Hog Farm, Onegreatjoke, and Morgan695: I cannot immediately find the hook in our article. I see "The historians William L. Shea and Terrence J. Winschel see the expedition as demonstrating a shift in the Union's war policy" but nothing about a turning point. Bruxton (talk) 00:44, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As the original article writer: The relevant quote from Shea & Winschel is it [Steele's Greenville expedition] also reflected a shift in the policy of the Lincoln administration. [quote from Halleck about peace which is forced by the sword] Henceforth the army was to bring the war home to southern civilians .... I think "shift", as used in the article, would be better than "turning point" here. Hog Farm _Talk 02:11, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Hog Farm, Onegreatjoke, and Morgan695: without objection I changed the hook to shift. Bruxton (talk) 02:46, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]