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Unsourced fancruft

Over the past few days, User:Riverofrock and User:IzzyJim have added a massive amount of fancruft to this article. Per WP:TNT, I would like to restore this version of the article and go from there. Furthermore, these two editors have created pages on many albums and songs. I'm going to go through them, but I'd like some input. Chubbles (you seem to watch this article), do you have any problems with this? Furthermore, Chubbles, is there any point in looking into this [1], [2], [3], [4]? . Thanks -- Nolelover^{It's football season!} 19:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TNT is a pretty terrible essay, although blanket reverts of long series of questionable edits are sometimes necessary. I don't know if the accounts editing this article are the same person or not, but they're probably either band members or people who know the band personally; sometimes there just isn't anyone else who cares enough to do anything, and I can hardly blame them for wanting to spruce the page up. I don't think the changes are all bad, but there's some really bad ad-copy in the article now, which I'll see about copyediting today. Chubbles (talk) 19:52, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nolelover,

If you check out this page, you'll notice that the Modern Rock Review article (that is cited) has about 80 distinct sources that span 22 years. http://www.modernrockreview.com/Features/2010-1010_Badlees/A-B.php#Bibliography I'll add each of these sources to the page, if it satisfies your standards. I just have not had time to do so to this point.

It is true, that writers at The River of Rock have added much this weekend, but that is only because there has been been (and still is) a tremendous lack of representation of Pennsylvania music on Wikipedia, AMG, and other fine Internet resources.

We will be adding plenty of material on many artists in the near future. We started with the Badlees because they have been one of the more susccessful and prolific of these artists. We are not members of the Badlees, nor agents of the band, nor affiliated in any way beyond their cooperation with the research we have conducted over the past months. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riverofrock (talk • contribs) 20:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just copyedited out some runaway tone from about two-thirds of the article. I'll have to do the rest later. It doesn't really flow as well anymore, so if anyone desires to clean up the phrasing, go right ahead. Chubbles (talk) 20:24, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, thanks. And BTW, I'm also talking to Riverofrock on my talk page. Nolelover^{It's football season!} 20:27, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What is the status on this? We've added sources and have stated that this is not "fancruft". We'd like to get back to editing these articles as well as multitudes more in the future but do not want to further offend the overlords. So how should we proceed?

--Riverofrock (talk) 00:10, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who is "we"? Chubbles (talk) 13:43, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"We" is this "River of Rock" (look at his user page). RoR, it's good that you have all these refs. Now we need to actually source the individual statements in the article. We do this using inline citations. I strongly suggest you read this and learn all about inline refs and the templates used. Nolelover^{It's football season!} 15:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is "River of Rock" an organization, or is the account being used by more than one person? Chubbles (talk) 17:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That, I don't know... Nolelover^{It's football season!} 17:41, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:Riverofrock account has been used by one person thus far, but may be used by others in the future. User:IzzyJim is an associated personal user. More on this at User talk:Nolelover. Why is this now the issue? What about "unsourced fancruft"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.207.55.186 (talk) 20:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia's user policy prohibits the use of corporate or organizational accounts, or the use of an account by more than one person. It would be grounds to have the account blocked; there's more information at WP:ORGNAME and WP:NOSHARE on that. Chubbles (talk) 20:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Also cause it's easier to talk to one person per account. That way things don't have to be explained twice... Nolelover^{It's football season!} 20:59, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- OK. This is good to know. As the founder of RoR, I will be sure that anyone in our organization who edits on Wikipedia will do so on their own personal account. Further, I can assure you that no one in our organization will be involved in writing a Wiki article on The River of Rock itself, should that article ever be written. Riverofrock (talk) 21:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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