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Note

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As a side note, we publish articles when the storm threatens land (in Mexico it is usually when TS Watches are issued). Leave Message, Yellow Evan home

Importance

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Once the final death toll and damages come in, should the article be high in importance? --Yueof theNorth 00:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Already upped it to high. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 00:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death totals

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Tropical Storm Agatha has now killed 102 (at last check) people, which qualifies it for listing at the Pacific hurricane list. I've taken the liberty of adding it there. Agatha is now the deadliest Pacific hurricane since Pauline. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm doubtful fewer than three of the 40+ missing people are alive. Once their inevitable deaths become official, Agatha will move past Ismael as the sixth-deadliest Pacific hurricane. Should the worst happen and more than (at least) 235 die, Agatha will be the fifth-deadliest Pacific hurricane, qualifying it for listing on the template. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 03:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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CNN Article - This article shows a picture of a monstrous sinkhole caused by the storm. Now none of this is new, i live in florida, and it happens all the time, but the fact that it happened in the middle of a heavy urban area is probably important to at least mention in the article, even just to highlight the other dangers besides landslides and flooding of storms such as Agatha. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.138.221 (talk) 01:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder how deep that is?--DAI (Δ) 14:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Photo requested. All is One (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to get a picture but the filters kept getting it. Just google Sinkhole Agatha in images and you'll get all of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.138.221 (talk) 07:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting Note

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Agatha is the deadliest eastern pacific tropical cyclone so far in the 21st Century, not sure if that bears any mention or if it is trvial. -Marcusmax(speak) 03:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

deadliest since '97, more exactly--DAI (Δ) 11:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Costly storm

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Agatha caused ~1.5 billion in damage, should the "Costliest pacific hurricanes" list be mentioned in the main article?98.206.70.2 (talk) 20:33, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Typo?

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Known Pacific hurricanes that have killed at least 100 people
Hurricane Season Fatalities Ref.
"Mexico" 1959 1,800 [1]
Paul 1982 1,625 [2][3][4][5]
Liza 1976 1,263 [6][7][8]
Tara 1961 436 [9]
Pauline 1997 230–400 [10]
Agatha 2010 204 [11][12]
Manuel 2013 169 [13]
Tico 1983 141 [14][15]
Ismael 1995 116 [16]
"Lower California" 1931 110 [17][18]
"Mazatlán" 1943 100 [19]
Lidia 1981 100 [12]

In this list, it is mentioned that Frank caused 136 deaths. However, in the main article it mentions that Frank's and 8-e's precursor waves caused the deaths. Is this list supposed to include deaths from precursor waves? Or did Frank really kill that many people on land? Rye998 (talk) 21:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Natural Hazards of North America (Map). National Geographic Society. April 1998.
  2. ^ "More Flood Victims found". The Spokesman-Review. September 28, 1982. Retrieved August 5, 2011.
  3. ^ "More flood victims found". The Spokesman-Review. Associated Press. September 28, 1982. p. 12. Retrieved August 18, 2011.
  4. ^ "Mexico - Disaster Statistics". Prevention Web. 2008. Archived from the original on July 22, 2011. Retrieved April 12, 2010.
  5. ^ "24 killed from hurricane". The Hour. October 1, 1982. Retrieved August 6, 2011.
  6. ^ "Mexico gives up to try and find storm victims". Bangor Daily News. United Press International. October 6, 1976. p. 8. Retrieved March 2, 2013.
  7. ^ "Hurricane Liza rips Mexico". Beaver County Times. United Press International. October 2, 1976. p. 18. Retrieved March 3, 2013.
  8. ^ "Historias y Anecdotas de Yavaros". Ecos del mayo (in Spanish). June 14, 2010. Retrieved June 11, 2013.
  9. ^ "Significant Data on Major Disasters Worldwide 1900-present" (PDF). Office of U.S. Foreign Disaster Assistance. August 1993. Retrieved March 25, 2009.
  10. ^ Lawrence, Miles B (November 7, 1997). Preliminary Report: Hurricane Pauline October 5 – 10, 1997 (PDF) (Report). United States National Hurricane Center.
  11. ^ Beven, John L (January 10, 2011). Tropical Cyclone Report: Tropical Storm Agatha (PDF) (Report). United States National Hurricane Center. Retrieved January 14, 2011.
  12. ^ a b Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters. "EM-DAT: The Emergency Events Database". Université catholique de Louvain.
  13. ^ Steve Jakubowski; Adityam Krovvidi; Adam Podlaha; Steve Bowen. "September 2013 Global Catasrophe Recap" (PDF). Impact Forecasting. AON Benefield. Retrieved October 25, 2013.
  14. ^ "Disaster History: Significant Data on Major Disasters Worldwide, 1900-Present". Office of Foreign Disaster Assistance, U.S. Agency for International Development. 1989. Retrieved November 14, 2008.
  15. ^ "Oklahoma residents clean up in Hurricane's wake". The Evening independent. October 22, 1983. Retrieved September 11, 2011.
  16. ^ Centro Nacional de Prevención de Desastres (2006). "Impacto Socioeconómico de los Ciclones Tropicales 2005" (PDF) (in Spanish). Retrieved November 9, 2006.
  17. ^ Associated Press (November 17, 1931). "Hurricane Toll Reaches 100 in Mexico Blow". The Evening Independent. Retrieved January 18, 2011.
  18. ^ "World News". The Virgin Islands Daily News. September 18, 1931. Retrieved January 18, 2011.
  19. ^ Sumber, Howard C (January 4, 1944). "1943 Monthly Weather Review" (PDF). U.S. Weather Bureau. Archived (PDF) from the original on September 23, 2008. Retrieved September 7, 2008.

Take off 2010

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maybe we should take off the 2010 because Agatha has a good chance of being retired due to being so deadly and also costly damage. 39.tg (talk) February 16 2011

It wasn't retired, somewhat surprisingly. CrazyC83 (talk) 01:46, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Hurricane Karl#And... for an ongoing discussion about retirees getting main articles or not. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 12:03, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the move request was: Requester was CheckUser blocked (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk) 02:47, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Storm Agatha → Tropical Storm Agatha (2010) – Name is not retired yet, Agatha in 1992 also caused damages N-C16 (talk) 10:20, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - N-C16 moved this page a few days as the name was not retired and Agatha 1992 caused some minor damage. The move was reverted by @Hurricanehink: after a brief discussion on N-C16's talk page which outlined that this Agatha was the primary topic and thus deserved the main article because of the death toll.Jason Rees (talk) 11:21, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. Per the Wikipedia policy WP:COMMONNAME, this should stay at the current title. No other Agatha was nearly as notable. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 11:32, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose - This storm was by far the most notable Agatha. Jdcomix (talk) 12:01, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – Every time someone brings up Tropical Storm Agatha, I always refer it to this storm. Not very many people know about the Agatha in 1992. HurricaneGonzalo | Talk | Contribs 19:45, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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