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Over-Quotation flag

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I have removed the "Over-quotation" flag as I believe the quotation from the specified review is rather short and is also relevant. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 02:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Perry Middlemiss Hope you don't mind me butting in, but as it stands, there are 202 words in the article. 82 of those are in the quote- or around 40%. Wikipedia has some really strict non-free content guidelines- and having nearly half the article being made up of a non-free quote does likely cross that line. Can you paraphrase the quote, or trim it, or expand the rest of the article using original prose? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 09:56, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The quote here is from a review about the novel, not a direct quote from the novel or from any of the author's work. It is included to enhance the novel's notability (it was reviewed in a major newspaper). If I reduce it any further or paraphrase it then it loses its reason for being there. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 10:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Perry Middlemiss I'm a little confused, sorry. I know the quote isn't from the novel itself, nor written by d'Alpuget. And the inclusion of the quote doesn't help show that the novel is notable. The fact that the review exists helps show notability. Could you explain what you meant by those statements? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 10:56, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies if I sounded a little testy; I have been in arguments in the past on Wikipedia about quoting from novels. The point I was trying to make here is that I don't have a lot on the novel in question. It is notable because of its award win, but that alone sometimes causes issues with reviewers. To mitigate that I have included a review of the book to indicate that it received some sort of coverage (increasing its notability) outside a small award. I always think it better to show the review as it is rather than trying to manipulate it in some way which may actually change the intent of the original review. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 20:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]