Talk:Typhoon Xangsane

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Typhoon Xangsane article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1

Typhoon Xangsane has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 31, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
March 3, 2008	Good article reassessment	Kept
December 17, 2008	Peer review	Reviewed
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 10, 2006. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that deaths caused by falling billboards in Metro Manila during Typhoon Xangsane (Milenyo)* prompted a renewed push by Philippine legislators for a ban on billboard advertising?*
A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on September 28, 2022.
Current status: Good article

Weather: Tropical / Western Pacific Mid‑importance

	Weather portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Weather, which collaborates on weather and related subjects on Wikipedia. To participate, help improve this article or visit the project page for details. Articles Requested Project Resources Become a Member Project Talk Assessment A-Class Alerts WeatherWikipedia:WikiProject WeatherTemplate:WikiProject WeatherWeather articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Tropical cyclones portal This article is supported by WikiProject Tropical cyclones (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is supported by the Pacific typhoon work group (assessed as Mid-importance).

Disaster management Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Disaster management, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Disaster management on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Disaster managementWikipedia:WikiProject Disaster managementTemplate:WikiProject Disaster managementDisaster management articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Tambayan Philippines Mid‑importance

	Philippines portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Tambayan Philippines, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics related to the Philippines on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Tambayan PhilippinesWikipedia:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesTemplate:WikiProject Tambayan PhilippinesPhilippine-related articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.

Southeast Asia Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Southeast Asia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Southeast Asia-related subjects on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Southeast AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject Southeast AsiaTemplate:WikiProject Southeast AsiaSoutheast Asia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Vietnam Mid‑importance

	Vietnam portal This article is part of WikiProject Vietnam, an attempt to create a comprehensive, neutral, and accurate representation of Vietnam on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.VietnamWikipedia:WikiProject VietnamTemplate:WikiProject VietnamVietnam articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Thailand Mid‑importance

	Thailand portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Thailand, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Thailand-related articles on Wikipedia. The WikiProject is also a part of the Counteracting systematic bias group aiming to provide a wider and more detailed coverage on countries and areas of the encyclopedia which are notably less developed than the rest. If you would like to help improve this and other Thailand-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.ThailandWikipedia:WikiProject ThailandTemplate:WikiProject ThailandThailand articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Archives

Archive 1

Tip: Anchors are case-sensitive in most browsers.

This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.

[[Tropical cyclone scales#Wind speed conversions|10-minute sustained winds]] The anchor (#Wind speed conversions) has been deleted by other users before.

Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. | Reporting errors

Assessment

Nice work Cordesat. I've left this at B-Class and High Importance for the moment-feel free to change that.HurricaneCraze32 aka Mitchazenia 14:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely NOT a High-importance. Lowered to mid-, though, as it's the first storm to impact Manila in 11 years. Still might not even be enough for mid. – Ch acor 14:21, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

279 deaths is definitely mid-Importance, no matter where it hit (well, except maybe Haiti or Bangladesh). —Cuivi é nen 13:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with Mid. High is reserved for the long-remembered, standard-bearers (except for those flagship articles that reach global proportions and are loaded with subpages that get Top level, which only Katrina is so far). CrazyC83 17:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Todo

More info. For example, what about the people being stranded in Philippines due to the storm? Surely there's more impact in the Philippines. Another picture, ideally of its second landfall, would be a nice addition. There's a discrepancy with the infobox. It says $681 million in damage, but the source says $629 million, all in Vietnam. Are there any damage figures for the Philippines? According to the seasonal article, there is a preliminary estimate for crop damage, so that should be worked in. A death toll box would be nice to keep things organized. All in all, good job for such a damaging storm in a short period of time. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What about Xangsane's impact on southern Laos and Cambodia? QazPlm 00:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can't seem to find any information at all, other than that it passed over those countries. --Core des at 02:25, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm currently in the process of getting some impact photos from a typhoon chaser on Storm2k. I'll upload them and add them to the article once he agrees to release them under CC or into the public domain. --Core des at 17:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Retirement

Do they retire names like this? Basically I would like to know if the (2006) is going to be dropped from the end. Good kitty 23:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, they retire WPAC names. If they do, it wouldn't be until the WMO meets next April and decides all of the retired names. I personally think it'll be retired. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably Bilis, Xangsane, Chanchu and Saomai.Mitchazenia V3.0 00:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We're not here to discuss this, Mitchazenia. – Ch acor 06:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since there isn't great certainty, the (2006) should stay on them for now IMO. CrazyC83 03:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because typhoon season runs year-round, they only retire names two years late - some 2004 names were only retired this year, while some 2005 names will go next year. At the earliest we'll only find out in 2008. – Ch acor 01:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, correction to make: we'll know very, very soon. Three 2005 storms were retired in the 2005 meeting in November 2005 (Matsa, Nabi, Longwang), but replacement names will only be known after the 2006 meeting (which ends today). By that reasoning we should know which 2006 names are retired by the end of this meeting. – Ch acor 08:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name retired[1]. As soon as an admin gets to it this will go to the main article without the year designator. – Ch acor 10:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article

This article meets the requirements for a Good Article. I have reviewed the article, have found it well-referenced and the text looks professional. There is no reason to deny this article GA status any longer. Firsfron of Ronchester 02:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Respectfully, I don't agree that this article meets the GA criterion for breadth of coverage. As other posters have noted, it passed over two very poor and (presumably) vulnerable countries, namely Laos and Cambodia; and there is no mention of its ever having passed through them (as it must have done) in its course. Is this really "good" coverage for a Southeast Asia article? Pufferfyshe (talk) 13:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It might need more information, but what's there should be fine for GA. Cheers, –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 13:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath

Aftermath reports still flow in on ReliefWeb, so updates are needed:

Also indirectly related are the Thai floods, for which the Xangsane page on ReliefWeb has almost-daily Thai releases up to mid-Nov. – Ch acor 17:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA Sweeps Review: Pass

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2006. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would also be beneficial to update the access dates of the website sources. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 01:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

This help request has been answered. If you need more help, please place a new {{help me}} request on this page followed by your questions, or contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page.

I don't know if it has been done or proposed in past but this article is may be renamed as Typhoon Xangsane(2006) or something as a typhoon of 2000-01 season also has same name.--Vyom25 (talk) 07:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This concern with disambiguating articles is addressed by the hatnote directing readers to the other articles. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 09:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This storm was retired, so it should have the main title. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right to Know other storms that have struck Manila in the recent past

That is why I've added links to such storms. It is important for the readers to note that despite having experienced storms, Metro Manila people and government always seem to shrug off hazards associated with storms in a fatalistic way. We ought to help build their Collective Memories, through media like (but not limited to) Wikipedia. That is why I believe Mr. Cyclonebiskit's reverts should be undone. I am a Filipino, I ought to help the Filipino readers understand this, and to convince the international wikipedia community to also do their part to contribute to disaster risk management and disaster history learning of their respective nationalities.

Pcbyed (talk) 13:10, 10 November 2013 (UTC)Pcbyed[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 3 external links on Typhoon Xangsane. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 20:05, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Typhoon Xangsane. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.cma.gov.cn/english/News/t20071129_221742.phtml

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 18:59, 4 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced content

@Binbin0111: With this edit you added content to the article without a source. Instead, you wrote "sources cited in text". Of the two sources cited in the text under "Philippines", the first is a dead link and the second does not support your edit. Are you able to add sources to support your edit? If not, will you remove your edit until you can find sources? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:41, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on Typhoon Xangsane. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20061030203233/http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/10/03/headlines/headlines_30015289.php to http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/10/03/headlines/headlines_30015289.php
Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070103020336/http://www.cma.gov.cn/qxxw/t20061213_171681.phtml to http://www.cma.gov.cn/qxxw/t20061213_171681.phtml
Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.cma.gov.cn/english/News/t20071129_221742.phtml

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:33, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]