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Game

Wirehead was apparently also an FMV game for the Sega CD, so it might be time to make a disambiguation page. --DocumentN (talk) 23:34, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Click" by Milo Manara

"Click" by Milo Manara sounds like another wirehead example. --Flightsoffancy (talk) 17:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mindkiller

Spider Robinson's book Mindkiller was my first exposure to the concept of "wireheading". IceKarma ॐ 13:13, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Spider Robinson was also my first exposure to the term "wireheading": "God is an Iron" (Mindkiller later based on it), so I agree. Did Niven use the word "wirehead", or only the concept, calling it droud or tasp? I think the origin of word itself is important, if it's the article title and has become the common term. See corpsicle for similar concept vs. label, lol.Ukrpickaxe (talk) 14:47, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Medical references

In the paper I just found http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/1097-0142(19860315)57:6%3C1266::AID-CNCR2820570634%3E3.0.CO;2-Q/pdf there are many (49?) references to brain research and potentially can be added to this article.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 14:49, 24 May 2017 (UTC) another find https://books.google.ca/books?id=2uJ5jYdNXKQC&lpg=PA13&ots=rPCKfrGCuC&dq=Carl-Wilhelm%20Sem-Jacobsen&pg=PA16#v=onepage&q=Carl-Wilhelm%20Sem-Jacobsen&f=false --Mark v1.0 (talk) 15:06, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Wirehead (science fiction" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Wirehead (science fiction). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 14#Wirehead (science fiction until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Not a very active user (talk) 11:05, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since the 1950s?

"The term is sometimes associated with science fiction writer Larry Niven, who used the term as early as the 1950s." How is that possible when Niven didn't actually start his writing career until 1964?174.19.102.156 (talk) 14:20, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Probably a typo in the source. Most probably the author of the ref had in mind Known Space series which started in 1960s (not 50s). But it is still a question when he used it for the first time. So far I see Ringworld (1970) The Organleggers (1969). Anything earlier? Lembit Staan (talk) 18:50, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Terminal Man "seizures"

Harry's "seizures" are nothing like the seizures that most of us associate with epilepsy. They disable his higher brain function, but they do not physically disable him. During a seizure, he becomes an enraged, psychotic killing machine, and then after it's over, he has no recall of anything that happened. That's why it's considered to be a Bad Thing when the "wirehead" apparatus trains him to have more and more of them. 2600:4041:DF:9600:C057:55AD:7BBC:51B0 (talk) 23:06, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 May 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Not moved per survey below. Gratitude to the nom for "instigating" this move request to check the consensus. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 14:44, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wirehead (science fiction) → Wirehead
Wirehead → Wirehead (disambiguation)

– Looks like the primary topic. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 01:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The sci-fi term article looks like a pure dictionary definition. A broader article on "Brain implants in science fiction" may be more notable, but I can't justify moving a potentially non-notable article to primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:39, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Zxcvbnm, WP:MALPLACED and the fact that the nominator either presented no pageview comparisons for evidence backup or maybe couldn't do the moves as they are an admin rather than instigating an RM?! Intrisit (talk) 18:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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early use 1959 Naked Lunch?

A discussion on the Straight Dope website https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-wirehead/141619 indicates that wirehead may have been used in WS Burroughs novel (The) Naked Lunch (1959). This would precede Niven's Death by Ecstasy (aka Organleggers) by a decade? There is a question as to whether wirehead was the actual word used in Naked Lunch, or just the concept of addictive brain stimulation. Unfortunately I cannot bring myself to read it to check - from reading the wiki article the book sounds remarkably awful even by modern internet standards, lol. If anyone is brave enough to check it, let us know.

(p.s.: one comment adds "Cordwainer Smith also uses this device (though not the term “wirehead”) in the story “Golden the Ship Was–Oh! Oh! Oh!”, which was published in April 1959.") Tkech (talk) 13:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]