Talk:Xifeng concentration camp
Xifeng concentration camp is currently a World history good article nominee. Nominated by — Chris Woodrich (talk) at 20:32, 14 October 2024 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria. Further reviews are welcome from any editor who has not contributed significantly to this article (or nominated it), and can be added to the review page, but the decision whether or not to list the article as a good article should be left to the first reviewer.
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- ... that the barracks at the Xifeng concentration camp were named for Confucian tenets such as righteousness and filial piety?
- Source: Mühlhahn, Klaus (2009). Criminal Justice in China: A History. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. p. 137. ISBN 978-0-674-05433-2.
- ALT1: ... that the Kuomintang drew from both Nazi and Soviet examples when establishing the Xifeng concentration camp? Source: Mühlhahn, Klaus (2009). Criminal Justice in China: A History. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. p. 137. ISBN 978-0-674-05433-2.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brenden Bates
- Comment: There could be a hook in Song Zhenzhong being an infant when detained at Xifeng and nine when executed, but I need a stout drink.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article new and long enough, well-referenced throughout. Both hooks confirmed in the Muhlhahn book, and both interesting, either will work. QPQ is done, and copyvio not detected (Earwig only flagged long names). Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 07:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Notes
[edit]- This appears to have been the official website of the attraction. It's dead of this timestamp. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:51, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
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Nominator: Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs) 20:32, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 01:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Will review. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 01:59, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- was constructed primarily to discipline staff of the Bureau of Investigation and Statistics (Juntong) – the staff were prisoner there? I can't really follow. Also, this information does not seem to be repeated in the main text.
- It's in the body of the article, writ "At the top of the hierarchy were Juntong members who had been accused of dereliction of duty or disobedience; according to Mühlhahn, these accounted for approximately 70 per cent of all detainees." They were not prison staff, but staff of the overarching organization. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- The "Description" mixes the description of the original sites with the modern museum, which I thought is confusing. Maybe Auschwitz concentration camp could be a template here; the museum is described in a separate section at the end, which makes much sense to me.
- Having said that, the "Description" section leaves a lot of questions, and does not do a particularly good job to explain things. What is the relevance of these caves? For what were they used for? Where these two sites effectively two independent camps, or did they had common facilities? From reading that rather short section, I had a hard time imagining how that looked like.
- The entrance gate identifies the site as the Xifeng Headquarters of the National Government Military Commission,[8] with a further sign reading "Lift Your Head Up" (抬起头来). – OK, but what does it mean? I don't know what to make of this information. Is it currently the headquarters of that commission? What is "Lift Your Head Up" trying to convey? --Jens Lallensack (talk) 09:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think the above three would be solved by recasting the modern description section into a dedicated Museum section. Will get back to you on that. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have reorganized with these edits. How does it look? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:30, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think the above three would be solved by recasting the modern description section into a dedicated Museum section. Will get back to you on that. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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