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On 13 March 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Zaqatala (city) to Zagatala (city). The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Requested move 13 March 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Vpab15 (talk) 18:13, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zaqatala (city) → Zagatala (city) – Move to "Zagatala (city)" per WP:UE/WP:COMMONNAME/WP:ENGLISH. Proof of anglicized name being the common name:

Results from Google News: Zagatala: 1,840 Zaqatala: 276

Results from Google Scholar: Zagatala: 742 Zaqatala: 511

Individual reliable sources referring to the city as Zagatala: EurasiaNet, RFE/RL, OC Media.

This is the same name but an anglicized version (current name is made of Latin letters, but the "q" in Azerbaijani is anglicized as "g" in English). Unlike other small villages, this is a fairly large town, which has made a lot of appearances in English-language media, in most of which, "Zagatala" has been used much more, establishing its WP:COMMONNAME. I'd also like to ask the closing admin to give more attention to the arguments being made rather than the vote counts, as there are people who go over each RM and repeat unrelated policies as an "Oppose" argument. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 06:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose anglicized "Zagatala" is clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC without disambiguator, so it needs to moved without disambiguator placed on it and i recommend the DAB page to moved into "Zagatala (disambiguation)". 36.77.95.114 (talk) 08:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There's a "(city)" near it for a reason. Your comment makes no sense. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 09:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:MODERNPLACENAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. "Zaqatala" without disambiguator is primary meaning of the city. So i recommend the dab page to also moved as "Zaqatala (disambiguation)" over redirect. 116.206.35.13 (talk) 15:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Since this seems to be almost copy-paste of the above comment (possible sock?), just look at my above reply. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 15:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose there are so many of these RMs had missed this one. Yes oppose per WP:MODERNPLACENAME since at least as early as Financial Times World Desk Reference Dorling Kindersley Publishing 2004, then Lonely Planet etc etc. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:31, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BarrelProof: in your revert did you intend to also revert this? In ictu oculi (talk) 17:34, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was just gnoming. I didn't really do a revert AFAIK. I just removed a full stop from a caption and removed an unnecessary section heading. I haven't yet studied the question of 'g' versus 'q'. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:00, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So your only source is a 17-year-old book (Financial Times)? While the other isn't even on the perennial sources list. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 13:37, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:UE and the sufficient sourcing provided by CuriousGolden. Gnominite (talk) 17:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC) CU-confirmed sock, please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CuriousGolden --Blablubbs|talk 16:21, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:DIACRITICS.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:39, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the user above has copy-pasted the same comment mentioning a completely irrelevant policy to every single Requested Moves of mine.

The first sentence from that policy:

The use of modified letters (such as accents or other diacritics) in article titles is neither encouraged nor discouraged; when deciding between versions of a word which differ in the use or non-use of modified letters, follow the general usage in reliable sources that are written in the English language (including other encyclopedias and reference works). The policy on using common names and on foreign names does not prohibit the use of modified letters, if they are used in the common name as verified by reliable sources.

See above to know which name English language reliable sources use. — CuriousGolden (T·C) 20:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.