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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 12:25, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Amy Coney Barrett Supreme Court nomination

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  • Reviewed: Prince Bride Reunion
  • Comment: Article likely to be moved if Trump makes a nomination before this hook runs, so I've created a second hook to reflect that. In the event that the nomination is actioned upon before the article runs on DYK, I've put in both tenses. Because it's the political hot potato to end all hot potatoes, I don't feel comfortable nominating any hook that touches upon Merrick Garland (or any Senator), though the closeness of the vacancy would make for an interesting hook nevertheless. As RBG only died on Friday, the timing criteria for DYK nominations is obviously satisfied.

Created by Arglebargle79 (talk). Expanded by Sceptre (talk) and nominated at 22:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC).

  • This article is well-written and certain to be widely read in the days ahead. Because the NY Times article is behind a paywall, not all readers will be able to read the cited reference for themselves. If, as is expected, Because the President announced his nomination on Sept. 26,

Alt1 is the preferred hook, to say: "... that the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett to fill the 2020 United States Supreme Court vacancy is the closest to a presidential election since 1864?  JGHowes  talk 01:43, 22 September 2020 (UTC) (updated 26 Sept 2020)

  • @JGHowes: the hook wording is the closest is very unclear. It makes it sound like the nomination is the closest to being like an election. Yoninah (talk) 01:07, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @JGHowes: thank you, but ALT2 is way over 200 characters. And it says too much. I have formatted this template to reflect the page move to Amy Coney Barrett Supreme Court nomination. Not sure why you're still calling it the 2020 US Supreme Court vacancy. Yoninah (talk) 01:46, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: see new Alt3, also pinging Arglebargle79 and Sceptre, who nominated/expanded this DYK:
  • @JGHowes: But a nomination is not a "period of time". It would help if you use an active verb, not "is". Yoninah (talk) 11:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I have pinged Sceptre and also left a msg on their Talk page, as I'd prefer deferring to them as the nom for further parsing of the hook. Alt3 is a paraphrase from the article Lead. As to why I'm calling it 2020 United States Supreme Court vacancy, that's the way the Template is listed, and any change (such as on Sceptre's Talk page) breaks the DYK link.  JGHowes  talk 18:50, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
How about ALT4: ... that the date of Amy Coney Barrett's Supreme Court nomination – September 26, 2020 – is the nearest to a presidential election in US history?" Sceptre (talk) 20:57, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Yoninah, Sceptre's reworded hook looks good to me, as Alt4.  JGHowes  talk 13:16, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Well, I think you could do without the date and just say it was 38 days before the election. That is confirmed by the New York Times cite. But where in the New York Times or Smithsonian sources that you cite does it say it's the shortest time before an election?
  • ALT5: ... that President Trump's nomination of Amy Coney Barrett to the US Supreme Court 38 days before a presidential election is the shortest lead time ever in US history? Yoninah (talk) 17:15, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I think ALT6 certainly brings the hook up to date and will be of more interest, but it's Sceptre's call if he wants to do a double nomination. Yoninah (talk) 17:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm not averse to a double-nomination. Sceptre (talk) 18:14, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Great. Feminist, do you have a QPQ to go with your nomination? Yoninah (talk) 19:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Also, FWIW, XTools credits Feoffer with the most contribution by text for the second article. Sceptre (talk) 21:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Since I'd like to promote this quickly, could someone else review the second nom? Pinging evrik for help here. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 13:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
  • WP:DYKR splits the reviewing process between reviewing the article and the hook. Evrik reviewed the article I nominated. I reviewed the ALT8 hook, which I did not suggest. My review solely concerns the ALT8 hook, and not the article (which has already been approved). But sure, I won't mind if another editor comes to rubber-stamp this. feminist (talk) wear a mask, you stupid bastards 14:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
  • @Feminist: I expected you to give a "yes" check to the ALT8 hook. ALT8 builds on your ALT6 and 7 hooks with additional information that needs to be checked by an independent reviewer. Yoninah (talk) 14:31, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
  • My "yes" check concerns the ALT8 hook (apologies if it was unclear), but point taken regarding how it builds on my hooks and thus needs to be checked by another reviewer. feminist (talk) wear a mask, you stupid bastards 14:34, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
This is a "yes" check: {{y}}. What you used is an approval tick. Yoninah (talk) 14:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Alright, I see what you are referring to. feminist (talk) wear a mask, you stupid bastards 02:12, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Wait a minute, here. I originally reviewed/approved this DYK nom on Sept. 21 (which met my QPQ review requirement for a DYK in upcoming Queue 3), with the hook pertaining to the proximity of the nomination to the election. Now, we have 3 different approval ticks and a different DYK co-nom. Who gets "credit" for what in this matrix?  JGHowes  talk 04:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

JGHowes, I added the article White House COVID-19 outbreak to this nomination because I thought it would be timely and relevant. Because White House COVID-19 outbreak is not part of the original nomination, it needs to be reviewed again. Three additional hooks have been proposed; they include both Amy Coney Barrett Supreme Court nomination and White House COVID-19 outbreak. Long story short, the ALT8 hook has not received a proper review yet, thus another editor (this can be you) needs to review the ALT8 hook for it to be promoted. feminist (talk) wear a mask, you stupid bastards 06:05, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I approve both articles. Hook 8 has already been approved. I suggest that we ignore the Amy Coney Barrett Supreme Court nomination merge discusss and just go ahead with whatever is in place when the dust settltes. --evrik (talk) 15:11, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: sorry, but ALT8 is not approved, and it's your hook. I was just asking feminist if she liked it, and she used an approval tick instead of a "yes" icon. We really need another reviewer for ALT8 and the article White House COVID-19 outbreak. Kingsif can you help here? Yoninah (talk) 15:17, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
  • OK. But we still need someone to review your ALT8. Yoninah (talk) 15:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT8 seems to meet requirements, but I won't approve it because 1. the election is less than a month away, a hook about the vacancy does not need to be tied to such a controversial current matter, and 2. the NPOV of it relies on the single word "may", which could be overlooked. There's too much misinformation surrounding this for me to be comfortable with that statement on the main page. I'll be happy to review other hook suggestions with one or both articles. Kingsif (talk) 15:53, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
  • @Kingsif: had this not languished we would not be two days past the 30 day limit. It's 28 days today. I created an 8a. --evrik (talk) 18:18, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
  • We need to get Amy Coney Barrett on the main page before her nomination is approved. I say go with ALT4 and make a separate hook for the White House COVID-19 outbreak. Yoninah (talk) 19:00, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Approving Alt4. --evrik (talk) 19:25, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
I have reopened this nomination as there appears to be consensus at WT:DYK that it shouldn't be run until after the election. Gatoclass (talk) 12:23, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
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