Template:Did you know nominations/Jacek i Agatka
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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 15:12, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
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Jacek i Agatka
[edit]... that the Polish children's television series Jacek i Agatka is the namesake of many kindergartens in Poland?
- Comment: The hook's fact can be found in some news articles, websites, and books, including the adjacent three inline citations of this fact in the article.
Created by TheGGoose (talk). Self nominated at 16:48, 3 July 2014 (UTC).
- @TheGGoose: May be it is my English, the kindergartens are namesakes of the show, not vice versa. The hook must make it clear that the kindergartens were named after the show, and not the show was named because there were numerous kindergartens with this name. Staszek Lem (talk) 02:07, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Either I misused the word "namesake," or there is another problem. British English defines "namesake" as other objects/people/places with the same name, no matter who obtains it first. In my native American English, "namesake" refers to the original name bearer. Maybe the hook has to be revised for all varieties of English? TheGGoose (talk) 03:00, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I consulted dictionary.com before jumping in with my English. It seems it does not cover your American English. Neither wiktionary. Yes, "person with the same name as another" is the second meaning listed, but in our case it is important who named why. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:22, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that many kindergartens in Poland were named after the children's television series Jacek i Agatka? TheGGoose (talk) 04:48, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, much clearer for all varieties of both language and speakers. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:22, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that many kindergartens in Poland were named after the children's television series Jacek i Agatka? TheGGoose (talk) 04:48, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Either I misused the word "namesake," or there is another problem. British English defines "namesake" as other objects/people/places with the same name, no matter who obtains it first. In my native American English, "namesake" refers to the original name bearer. Maybe the hook has to be revised for all varieties of English? TheGGoose (talk) 03:00, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
Full review still needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:56, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
This article is new enough and long enough. The ALT1 hook fact is referenced to a reliable site (thanks Google Translate), I see no policy issues and I think a QPQ review is not needed in this instance. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:35, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
