Template:Did you know nominations/New Zealand Coot
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 10:37, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
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New Zealand Coot, Chatham Coot
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- ... that the New Zealand and the Chatham Coot (sternum pictured) were likely hunted to extinction by the Māori people?
Created by Maias (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 08:43, 22 July 2013 (UTC).
- Reviewing.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 20:55, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Why is something pictured that is not mentioned in the hook?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 20:55, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Both articles point to overhunting without clarifying by whom.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 21:00, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- I just thought the picture was cute - we can ditch it. The New Zealand just mentions the Maori middens in the same sentence so to mention maori again (in the article) seemed laboured and should be implied. The source for the NZ one says Maori, the Chatham one implies it (there wasn't anyone else there...) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:00, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- Are you standing by the original hook without the picture?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 05:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- If you are happy with my explanations above then I am happy to leave as is (and happy to drop picture). If you want me to dig up some more sources I can see what I can do. Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:44, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
These articles fail based on length because overlappling/repeated text only counts once.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 22:31, 6 August 2013 (UTC)- P.S. Although the NZ source clearly links the Maori, I don't know enough about the subject to be comfortable that the Chatham ref supports the hook. It is not easily WP:Ved by the average reader.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 22:39, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware of the overlapping text rule and concede it was hard digging up material. In which case I am happy to ditch the Chatham Coot and just keep the NZ one as follows as I don't have the energy to continue with this and would rather develop other articles. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:45, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
ALT1... that the New Zealand Coot was likely hunted to extinction by the Māori people?
Everything check out.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 01:02, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
