Template:Did you know nominations/Taivoan people
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:22, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
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Taivoan people
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Taivoan people in traditional dress
... that the modern name "Taiwan" could be derived from the name of a group of indigenous people?(Many sources, including: "據說安平附近海岸沙洲的住民自稱「Tayovan」人，因此荷蘭人將安平港稱為「Tayovan」[...] 後來有些研究者到大武壠部落調查時，聽見一些耆老提到過去祖先曾住在海邊，因此認為大武壠人很可能就是荷蘭人在安平遇見的最早「臺灣人」（Tayovan）" (Translation: "It's said the autonym of the natives living at the coastal shoal around Anping is 'Tayovan', and therefore the Dutch people call the Harbour of Anping as 'Tayovan' [...] Later when scholars did research in Taivaon communities, some elders told them that their ancestors used to live by the seaside, and so it's considered that Taivoan people is very likely to be the earliest 'Taiwanese' that the Dutch people met in Anping.") (Hu, Chia-yu (2014). Threads of Splendor -- Taivoan Pingpu Clothes and Embroidery Collections, pp. 2–10))- ALT1:
... that the first sovereignty grant act in the history of Taiwan was not signed by Chinese, but between the Dutch and a tribe in the early 17th century?(Source: 麻豆協約◎福爾摩沙第一份簽署的主權讓渡和約 (Mattau Act, the First Sovereignty Grant Act Signed in Formosa). Retrieved 2018-01-25.) - ALT2:... that a unique Women's Night is still celebrated by a group of indigenous people (pictured) in Taiwan as the legacy of their centuries-long matrilineal practice? (Source: 范情 (2006). 元宵暝，查某醒歸暝──西拉雅族查某暝 (Women's Night, Women Awaken All the Night -- The Women's Night of Siraya), 女人屐痕：臺灣女性文化地標, pp. 44–55.)
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5x expanded by Bellenion (talk). Self-nominated at 10:00, 27 January 2018 (UTC).
Very nice expansion of an important topic, accompanied by images taken by the nominator. 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. As all sources are either offline or foreign-language, unable to check for close paraphrasing. All images freely licensed. No QPQ needed for first-time nominator.- I went through the whole article, copyediting for English grammar and also fixing up the formatting (please put the punctuation (period, comma, colon) inside the citation, not after the citation). I tagged several places where a citation is needed to satisfy Rule D2 and also to verify certain claims.
- Thank you for your review! Some more references have been further added. Benson Fang (talk) 19:55, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- I prefer ALT2 as the hook, but I don't see the exact connection between Women's Night and the legacy of the matrilineal practice mentioned in the article. Yoninah (talk) 12:02, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Taivoan and Pinuyumayan are the only two Taiwanese indigenous peoples that hold a special cheerful festivals for their women when they are gratified, and therefore many regard the festivals are the legacies of their matrilineal practices. I've added some more words in the article. Thanks for the review! Benson Fang (talk) 19:55, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for providing all the citations! I'm just wondering why you didn't add a translation to the lyrics under "Kalawahe", as you did for other lyrics later on? After you do that, I'll be happy to approve this nomination. Yoninah (talk) 22:58, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Because Taivoan language has been a dormant language for a century (according to linguist like Li), many Taivoan songs left nowadays can hardly be fully understood, including "Kalawahe", but one could still catch a rough idea from some of the lyrics, which I have further explained in the article. Thank you! Benson Fang (talk) 02:33, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
