Template talk:2004 Atlantic hurricane season buttons

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Usage

Simply include this at the bottom of Atlantic hurricane articles:

Examples

Discussion

Move

I moved this template to the correct location. Please make any new such templates at their correct locations; don't use the talk namespace for templates. Jdorje 06:20, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For clarification, the correct location is {{2004 Atlantic hurricane season buttons}}. Jdorje 22:36, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Greek Letter caps

I think the unspoken compromise was to list both the uppercase and the lowercase greek letters for all greek-letter-name storms (at least, that stopped the revert warring). Since then, two anons have removed the uppercase greek letters; should I revert that? Maybe leave a note at the top of the page? --AySz88^-^ 18:09, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the unspoken compromise left both parties unhappy. It's even worse than having some caps and some non-caps. Oh well. - Cuivienen 15:41, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about it being worse, since it makes it obvious that they're beyond the normal English alphabet. --AySz88^-^ 17:18, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect

This discussion should be a redirect, because all the season button bars should look the same and have the same usage; the discussion for all of them is equivalent. Jdorje 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I was about to point at the above post about Greek letters, but I guess if it ever happens again it would be relevant. --AySz88^-^ 21:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I was the one who made the bars for 1995-2003 (and seriously corrected 2004), and I redirected all the talk pages to this one... unless somebody changed that in the past couple of days, I haven't checked. PenguinCDF 19:31, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, all redirects from old templates to correct templates are (finally) done (1995 and after), and all talk pages for the correct templates lead to this. PenguinCDF 00:36, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I added redirects from every other button templates. Hurricanehink 02:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a bit of a discussion right now. Should this page perhaps be moved to something like Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Button bars? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How far back?

1995 is a good cutoff date since that's when the NHC moved to its new, more complete, forecasting format. If you guys go back further I don't know when you should stop. Jdorje 22:38, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I stopped at 1995. However, I see some people attempted bars for earlier seasons (evident in the Hurricane Joan-Miriam and Hurricane Klaus articles), leading me to think we should go to 1979, the first year the 6 year rotation of names was used, and clean up some messes along the way. But I won't do them unless you guys think that's a good idea too. PenguinCDF 19:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If we do keep going (probably will, since I have nothing else to do tomorrow!), an absolute stopping point would be 1950, the first year of naming storms. PenguinCDF 00:38, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Please redirect the talk pages of those articles back to here. Jdorje 06:28, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Every season since 1976 has a button bar. Hurricanehink 02:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be back to 1950. Icelandic Hurricane #12 15:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Every season since 1968 has a buttons bar now. Icelandic Hurricane #12 00:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now 1966. Icelandic Hurricane #12 01:58, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now 1962. Icelandic Hurricane #12 22:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now '59. Icelandic Hurricane #12 22:04, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clear?

Perhaps you should add {{clear}} to the top of the button bar start. It seems a common problem that pictures run down onto the bar, causing formatting problems. And I can't think of any time that would be desirable. Jdorje 06:28, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1982 Button Bars Discussion

Sorry. One was a storm not a depression juan andrés 04:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

intensity param

The intensity parameter should be changed to just take the intensity rather than the color. — jdorje (talk) 21:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're talking about Template:Hurricane season bar button? If so, while I agree, I don't know that it would be worth the effort; do you have something in mind? —Locke Cole • t • c 21:26, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have nothing in particular in mind to ease the transition. Also, the # should be included in the {{storm color}} template, but this would take even more work to fix up. — jdorje (talk) 22:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For your note.

The WikiProject Unused Templates is holding a vote to see if Template:1997 Atlantic hurricane season/Buttons should be put up for Templates for deletion. If you would like to say why it should NOT be removed please post at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unused_templates/Vftfd/1997_Atlantic_hurricane_season/Buttons. The reason why we are voting because: "Unneeded Redirect to Template:1997_Atlantic_hurricane_season_buttons" Thank you. --Actown ^e 02:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for update

Near the end replace:

by:

Reason: Tropical Depression Fourteen has been upgraded to Tropical Storm Melissa

--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 09:21, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That is done. -- Denelson 83 10:29, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template link?

These "buttons" are technically navbox(es), and I think they all need the v • d • e links for easier edit access. For me to get to this template I had to edit an article, copy the code, then type it into search. StevePrutz (talk) 16:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Numbers

The numbers used for Pacific typhoon articles aren't very intuitive, which is really the whole purpose for providing links at the bottom. If you don't want to identify the storms by letters, why not lose the whole thing? Potapych (talk) 01:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The numbers used are the offical numbers assigned by JMA - and we cant id the JMA storms by letters as they are too simular see 2008 PTS for an example Jason Rees (talk) 03:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not useful in its current configuration. I think its annoying to wait for a mouseover to reveal what it means. Potapych (talk) 04:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]