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Marmaduke Pattle

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Why does this template not include Marmaduke Pattle? Cavalryman V31 (talk) 13:20, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion criteria

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For me, the title "British" or "UK" flying aces means pilots from the present-day political nation of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we're including RAF aces not from the UK, that would include many Commonwealth aces, such as George Beurling, Pat Pattle, and Adolph Malan to name a few. There were also many Polish and Czech aces who flew for the RAF. Including them all would overload the template, which is why I think that the template should be restricted to pilots of British nationality. @Cavalryman V31, MisterBee1966, Gaia Octavia Agrippa, and WatermillockCommon: any thoughts? — Catrìona (talk) 06:33, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the criteria for inclusion should be 10+ aerial victories in Bitish service (RAF &/or RN), and not a Commonwealth country's service (RAAF, RNZAF etc) flying in British squadrons. If the numbers are getting out of hand then we can adjust the minimum number of victories for inclusion. Kind regards, Cavalryman V31 (talk) 22:15, 3 March 2018 (UTC).[reply]
Fair enough. Since few of the 10-15 victory pilots are that notable, I'd support raising threshold to 15 and including pilots of non-British nationality. The fact that they flew for the RAF is more important than what country they came from originally. However, in that case, the template's title would have to be changed to "Royal Air Force aces of World War II" or something similar... although that would exclude the RN. Catrìona (talk) 01:12, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I apologise for the late response, due to work my ability to contribute for the next month will be extremely limited. You have done a fantastic job already, I agree if the template starts to look too full we raise the threshold for inclusion to 15+ victories, although at the moment I think it is fine. Regarding naming, I have thought about that also, inclusion of RN pilots makes it difficult to use RAF, I am very open to suggestions. Kind regards, Cavalryman V31 (talk) 01:57, 5 March 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Deere

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Just a note, I edited the template to reflect recent research that indicates Deere had 17 confirmed victories, not 22 as previously thought. This inconsistency came to light while I was working on the Alan Deere article. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 10:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]