Template talk:Infobox brand

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"Type" is confusing

It looks too much like the "type" parameter on {{Infobox company}}, where it denotes the type of business entity, and which uses such parameters as "industry", "products" and "genre" to indicate the nature of the business or product range.

Case in point: I just looked on Matchbox (brand) and found in the Type field: "Die cast toy". My first reaction was, "How can a company be a die cast toy?" I then realised that in {{Infobox brand}}, "type" means something completely different. Given the similarity in context of use of the two templates, this semantic difference is confusing, as well as looking silly to readers familiar with {{Infobox company}}.

I therefore propose to deprecate "type" here and introduce "products" to fill the role (if that's what it's being used for generally). We can at least change the label, whether or not we actually change the parameter name. — Smjg (talk) 11:26, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thinking about it now, "product type" might be a better label as it's more general. For example, it suits better the cases where it's used for a brand name that applies to a single product line, such as Terry's Chocolate Orange. — Smjg (talk) 02:28, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I keep meaning to come back to this. I was about to make the change, given that there seems to be no objection to it, but then found that the template is protected. Could we have this implemented, at least changing label1 from "Type" to "Product type"? — Smjg (talk) 17:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:TESTCASES I set up the template's sandbox page. Just to be clear, is this the only change required? --Redrose64 (talk) 18:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done I've implemented this, as it seems an innocuous-enough change. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 09:46, 23 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the parameter "producttype", in addition to "type", to match it more to the meaning. Funandtrvl (talk) 15:58, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Food is different - how?

At the top of the template page, it says "For food, use Infobox food instead.", however I notice that this infobox doesn't include some of the key parameters of the brand infobox. For example, in my scenario, I am looking at the article for Cornetto, this is clearly an important Unilever brand, like Lynx, Axe or Dove. However because it is food I must apparently use Infobox Food. But Infobox food doesn't include a logo parameter, so how is it an adequate replacement for brand?

So should I use Infobox Food, or just ignore the advice and use Infobox Brand? Whistler (talk) 19:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suppressing name

Does anyone know how to suppress the name? I would like to add this to Proactiv. The title of the article is Proactiv and the logo says "proactiv," so it looks odd repeated above the infobox. I've tried leaving it empty and removing it, but it's still adding it. SarahSV ^(talk) 22:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I assume it's this that's causing the problem: {{#if:{{{name|}}}|{{{name}}}|{{PAGENAMEBASE}}}} SarahSV ^(talk) 22:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it. [1] Hope that's okay. SarahSV ^(talk) 22:31, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarah: The name was coded the way it was because it (a) serves as a caption to the table for vision-impaired readers and (b) is used to emit metadata. Alakzi (talk) 22:32, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alakzi, the issue is forcing the name to be added. If an article title is X, and the logo at the top of the infobox is X, it looks really strange to have X sitting above the infobox too. There has to be an option of not repeating it three times within such a small space.

In addition, forcing the name at the top makes the infobox longer. This is not a huge issue, but it's an extra annoyance when the repeated name isn't needed, because at larger browser widths it means the box is more likely to bleed into the next section and displace that section's image. SarahSV ^(talk) 23:03, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ya, I'm sure we can find a middle ground, but we'll probably have to make changes to {{Infobox}}. Let's leave your changes in for now. Alakzi (talk) 23:32, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. SarahSV ^(talk) 23:36, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Add "owner" as alias of "currentowner" parameter

I saw some pages that use this template use the "owner" parameter instead. Of course, because it doesn't exist in the template, it doesn't show up. I don't know why people use it (maybe it was valid in previous versions of this template?), but I think it's reasonable to add owner as an alias name for currentowner. -fireattack (talk) 22:45, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Giving multiple types of tea

If I want to give various variations of tea like black tea, green tree, etc., how can I give it using this template? Actually, I need an answer to the infobox unknown parameter error detected in Ahmad Tea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adithyak1997 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Adithyak1997: There is no such parameter as |Blends= - it is not listed in the documentation, but more importantly, it is not coded for in the template itself. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:32, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]