User:Dfrankiejunior

Dispense with the ad hominem attacks. It is merely a week attempt of slight of hand. Please effectively reference your claims.

No ad hominem here...in fact why dont you point out where I attacked him. Read the OTM article for HIS OWN WORDS about losing, I will DIRECTLY link the results of the Pan Ams to this page:

http://www.ibjjf.org/results/2003panamericano.htm This is his "Gold" medal AND his silver

Super Super Heavy

First William Vandry Machado Dallas

Open Class

First Jorge Pereira Jorge Pereira

Second William Vandry Machado Dallas

Black Belt Senior 2 Male

As you can see there was NO ONE else in his division for his gold, and his silver medal came from his loss to Jorge Pereira. THESE ARE INDISPUTABLE FACTS!