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Hello, Roisterdoister! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already loving Wikipedia you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Happy editing! --Jza84 |  Talk  10:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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No problem with the image - glad to have helped. Just a nudge that there is a need to keep the list of external links to an absolute minimum. Lists of external links are generally discouraged, and the rationale is outlined at the pages entitled WP:NOT and WP:EL. Hope that helps! --Jza84 |  Talk  14:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's no problem, it's an easy mistake to make! If I can help you get into the swing of Wikipedia's ways with anything else, feel free to give me a shout.
PS, if you're from Merseyside, there is a proposal page to start a dedicated corner of Wikipedia to talk about how to better organise and improve content about the region (there is one for Greater Manchester, here). If you're interested, I can add your name. :) --Jza84 |  Talk  14:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Roisterdoister. I actually like the article, and perhaps the 'advert' tag wasn't a perfect explanation of my concerns with the article, but the best that I could find. My concerns are regarding the tone of the article (as I said, I think the article is of merit, and certainly not something to walk away from) regarding the personification of the spider. Like you said, the event is telling a story, but the article seemed to tell a story too, rather than being an encyclopaedic entry. I'll try and have a work on it when I get back (just on my way out the door), but feel free to keep contributing to it, and feel free to comment on any changes I do decide to make. Hope this helps explain my rationale a bit. M0RHI | Talk to me 16:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Updated DYK query On 8 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article La Princesse, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 07:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Help please!!!

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My DYK on La Princesse, the giant mechanical spider is on the front page right now. A user (User:Jza84) kindly helped me put one photo up but I can't contact him/her again. I have found some more photos of her on Flickr that are acceptable for licensing, but can't upload them as I haven't been registered for 5 days. Could someone help me please? The images are of the spider on the move (more exciting than her crouched on the side of the building, and you can see just how massive she is) - any chance I could bother someone to upload them and add them to the page? I particularly like [1] because you get a sense of its scale and how it moves, and[2] because of the colours and you can see the puppeteers well. Any chance someone could oblige? Sorry to be a pain. Thanks again, Roisterdoister (talk) 08:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC Done - thanks everyone for all your help. Roisterdoister (talk) 08:55, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS I've also asked this at the help desk and on User:Jza84's page and on the La Princesse talk page Roisterdoister (talk) 08:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Working on it. JaakobouChalk Talk 08:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done, actually. Sorry. :-) --IvoShandor (talk) 08:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We're just falling over ourselves to help you apparently. --IvoShandor (talk) 08:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah, images are here and here.--IvoShandor (talk) 08:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No problem whatsoever. I'm just sitting at "work". Heh. Haven't seen the videos, but I will check them out. That spider, whoa. Creepy, but curious; I mean, a spider that I can crawl on. How cool. Nice job with the article and hunting down the photos. --IvoShandor (talk) 08:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some mild image enhancement on the original (a.k.a. 'move1') version...

Hope you like it, JaakobouChalk Talk 09:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Starry starry night

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Not sure if you're into them or not but . . .

The Oddball Barnstar
For the creation of La Princesse, a decidedly unusual article, worthy of the oddball barnstar for its creator and main editor Roisterdoister. Nice work, keep it up. IvoShandor (talk) 08:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


As an additional note, I have added the article to Wikipedia's list of unusual articles. --IvoShandor (talk) 08:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why it is included within Category:Spiders? It is a machine, not animal. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 08:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps Category:Fictional spiders would be better. Although, Category:Spiders in art would be better it doesn't exist yet, but it does on Commons. Hmm. Not sure, seems like it should have some sort of spider related category, away from the animalia. --IvoShandor (talk) 09:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That seems far more appropriate - I didn't know there was such a category. But you're right about a spiders in art ccategory - better still. I'll bung it in the fictional ones for now. Roisterdoister (talk) 09:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Category:Fictional spiders is better. However I think a category like Category:Spiders in art will be better since the spider exists in real life, but a machine, while fictional spider will suggest spiders in fiction like novels, comics etc. The article is very interesting, well done. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whhops just had an edit ocnflict (??) with someone and think I've messed it up. What I was going to say is, thanks very much, glad you liked it. How do I go about creating a category? Or is it worth it if La Princesse might be the only spider in it?? Roisterdoister (talk) 10:41, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not hard, Help:Category has all the info you need. --IvoShandor (talk) 04:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And I might add, the category could be useful, or it might get deleted but be bold, there may be some articles out there that belong in it. On a different note you might want to consider breaking La Princesse into logical sections, it helps break up the article so its not so daunting for the reader among other things. You can see info about sections at Help:Section, if you are not yet familiar with the wiki syntax and such things. Have a nice day. :-) --IvoShandor (talk) 13:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice one. Well done. SilkTork *YES! 09:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Debate

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If I were you I would just drop the genius part unless you can get a consensus on some language that works for everyone. The descriptor might actually be more appropriate on a page about the person. It's probably not a big deal either way though, right? I mean, what do you really lose if you concede this point. You've contributed a great article about an obscure topic to the project, it's a job well done. And, honestly, if you can make someone else smile, and maybe say something good about their interaction with Wikipedia's pseudonymous editors, all the better I say. Hope that helps. I'll leave the discussion to you. If you really need me to chime in there, I will. I could probably work it out, but I think you could do that too. :-)--IvoShandor (talk) 14:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You know, it's not that I am necessarily against the phrasing, but sometimes it's just easier to let it go. I have an exasperating past around here, but have found if you take it slow and work on what you enjoy, it's actually fun, and accommodation to those inside and outside of the community can be part of that. Sometimes I find myself changing how I feel about certain editorial decisions because of some anon comment. And it doesn't harm the article. And I will certainly take a look at your other new article. I have added it to my mental list for stuff to get done before the weekend ends. On a cheerier note, have a great day sir/or ma'am.--IvoShandor (talk) 15:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah, and that warning was out of line, it took me a second to even figure out what language he/she was talking about. But our anons don't understand Wikiquette or wiki policy, so we just look past such things. It's clear what is going on at Talk:La Princesse so no worries.--IvoShandor (talk) 15:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, lemme know when you finish with all the expansion and addition you have planned and I will see if I can divide it into sections, move around some text, I'm pretty good at it. :-)--IvoShandor (talk) 17:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm terribly sorry, I killed your last edit in an edit conflict. I couldn't bear to lose mine, as it took me several minutes. :-(--IvoShandor (talk) 12:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updated DYK query On 14 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Artichoke (creative company), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for contributing and nominating! Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 17:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Hi there, I've attempted a translation for you – I've put it on the talk page rather than in the article, though. Reading the French text, I became worried it was a copyvio, because it was written so much like advertising for the company (though it could just be my French is not good enough to pick up style things). So I've put it on the talk page and hope you will be judicious about what you put in the article – perhaps incorporate relevant info here and there rather than copying it all over. It's a pretty rough translation, but if we're not using it word for word I hope that won't matter :) Cheers, WikiJedits (talk) 16:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thank you for the kind words. It was fun to attempt and I hope it helped. Best, 207.134.250.140 (talk) 12:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC) Huh, it didn't sign me in.WikiJedits (talk) 13:05, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: La Princesse

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Hello Roisterdoister,

No problem. Really, in honesty, I held back if anything on the trim of the external links.

Most of the links listed should go: Wikipedia is not a collection or repository of links. Indeed, adding external links to an article can be a service to the reader, but they should be kept to a minimum of those that are meritable, accessible and appropriate to the article. Wikipedia's purpose is not to include a comprehensive list of external links related to each topic, whilst with relation to the BBC content we should try to avoid separate links to multiple pages in the same website; instead, try to find an appropriate linking page within the site.

Hope that helps, --Jza84 |  Talk  13:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK: September 20, 2008

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Updated DYK query On 20 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Larmer Tree Gardens, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Maxim () 00:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Larmer Tree Festival

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Updated DYK query On 18 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Larmer Tree Festival, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Victuallers (talk) 18:32, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion

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Happy to help. Sounds like a fun festival. - Philippe 21:56, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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