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You're a magician!

Now, can you get User:Enterprisey/archiver to work? That's the real, since it really speeds things up when arching batches of threads (which is obviously what I want to do). I'd forgetten about it until just now. I know there was a time when both one-click and the multi-threads-at-once both worked at the same time. (Maybe you had to turn one off to use the other -- can't recall.) If I had to pick one, it would be the Enterprisey one. Any insight you can lend would be appreciated. I'm slammed IRL. EEng 00:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I suspect that the Enterprisey archiver was caught up in the same change to section headings that caused a fault in the one-click-archiver, but I don't know if someone's made a fix for it yet. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
What was the change to section headings? EEng 13:57, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
mw:Heading HTML changes. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:58, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
I don't suppose you'd like to find someone who can fix that too, would you? Your name would be honored down through the ages. EEng 16:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
You'll have to honour someone else's name: User:andrybak/Scripts/Archiver should do the job. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Works like a charm. I really appreciate it! EEng 17:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
You can thank me by putting that script to work on a certain page... then I really will be a magician. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
No, that would make you a Svengali. EEng 19:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
all the little flies end up in my web ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Tesla Closure

And on this note, I think this has reached its natural conclusion.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Your closure on Tesla page is just terrible.

Let me start from the beggining

This RfC was a mess from start to finish Why should I care? Tell it those who made a mess. I surely haven't.

The foremost cause was probably the RfC initiator User:Trimpops2 and their opening statement, neither neutral nor brief, often incorrect, initially proposing outright plagiarism, and following none of WP:WRFC; then they proceeded to spend nearly 8,500 words bludgeoning the discussion Why do I care about that user? I was there to review sources.

neither neutral Where exactly it lacks neutrality? You didn't bother to explain. What would be more neutral in your opinion?

nor brief This is just incorrect. It's more brief than most of RfCs I've seen. It must be below the average.

often incorrect Not often, but in some regards. That was corrected in the discussion.

initially proposing outright plagiarism Not true. It's allowed to quote directly from sources. Anyways, the purposal isn't set in stone and editors can suggest alternative wording and this all can be discussed.

and following none of WP:WRFC Really? None? I don't want to bother to answer that. I'm sure we can easily find one of WRFCs that was followed. If some aren't you should provide explanation instead of making such unfounded accusation.

then they proceeded to spend nearly 8,500 words bludgeoning the discussion Again, why do I care about that used.

Truth be told, however, no-one came out of this discussion smelling like roses—poor editing behaviour was on show from nearly everyone. Not true. Discussions on contested topics are often harsh. No one stepped out of boundaries, apart from one editor who suggested that nationality should be considered when determining consensus which some have characterized as racist.

This is especially concerning considering the contentious topic designation: I could easily see WP:AE sanctions for half a dozen editors here. Again, why do I care about that???

I don't care about all that. Let's see how you determined the consensus.

I summarize this discussion as asking whether it would be a) correct and b) WP:DUE to add a sentence specifying the political circumstances of Nikola Tesla's birthplace at that time. Yes. But you didn't summarize that. That is explicitly asked in the RfC intro.

In such a discussion, making arguments from contextually-relevant reliable sources is essential. Ok, that is fair.

There was pitifully little of that though Not true at all. Sources were discussed a lot

especially little discussion on he problem of due weight Not true. Most of discussion was about due weight

he article should be changed came to no consensus You provided no explanation on how sources were considered when determining consensus.

the ill-formed opening statement Nothing was ill-formed. Please provide explanation on how the proper formulation should be.

the difficulties in evaluating consensus amid excessive POV-pushing You are here to resolve that. If you have difficulties , you can leave it for others.

Furhtermore, you have provided only the consensus on the due weight. You didn't touch on the first question.

93.142.80.133 (talk) 16:08, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

An intriguing message. Before I reply, could you please let me know which username or IP address you commented under in the RFC? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
5.39.134.145 93.141.181.3 (talk) 11:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Okay then. You posted a single 20-word !vote in the 21,000-word RfC, somehow came to the conclusion that everything in the close should have been a response to you specifically, and got offended that the close was directed at the major participants: "Why should I care? Tell it those who made a mess. I surely haven't ... Why do I care about that user? I was there to review sources ... Again, why do I care about that used [sic] ... Again, why do I care about that??? I don't care about all that. Weirdly, those who contributed more than 0.1% of the discussion got more attention in the close.
Now, let's move on from your huffing.
  • The RfC statement was not short, being over 250 words, or neutral, as it was clearly arguing for the answer "yes" to both questions.
  • I don't particularly care to pedantize over whether "often" and "in some regards" are meaningfully different.
  • No, the copyright policy does not allow for direct quotations without attribution—see WP:PLAGFORM.
  • Go ahead, find one bit of WP:WRFC that the opening statement followed.
  • "No one stepped out of boundaries" ... yeah, totally. I suppose when you wrote "why do I care" about 8,500 words of bludgeoning, you really meant that.
  • No, sources were vaguely mentioned, along with decade-old discussions on other talk pages, but no-one, including yourself, actually discussed them. Your "review of sources" actually consisted of saying "The sources are there"—no shit Sherlock? If you believe that the question of WP:DUE was "explicitly asked in the RfC intro", why did you not bother to address it at all? Your !vote was characteristic of the typical level of engagement with sources in this discussion—extremely superficial.
  • "You are here to resolve that" If you click on the link I provided, you'll find a list of common RfC results, of which two are "RfC is not well-formed" and "Consensus cannot be evaluated".
  • Since you ask, a better opening statement would have been the updated proposal (reached after a period of WP:RFCBEFORE discussion), reading something like: Should "At the time of his birth Croatian Military Frontier was a dependent province held by the Austrian Empire as part of Kingdom of Croatia." be added after the first sentence in the "Early years" section? Then, the RfC opener would put their sources, reasoning, and conclusion in their first !vote. The guidance at WP:WRFC visualises why this framing is helpful.
I think that's about all I have to say. If you have any further concerns, please start a WP:CLOSECHALLENGE at WP:AN. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Again, terrible answer. You didn't answer all my points and you feel you don't need to discuss anymore? I will go to AN, but it's protected at the moment, so I can't.
You posted...a single 20-word !vote It doesn't matter how much I posted. I could have been an uninvolved editor to call you out for terrible closure.
Weirdly, those who contributed more than 0.1% of the discussion got more attention in the close. Totally inappropriate thing to say. I didn't even identify myself, utill you asked, how could have I asked for more attention? I complained that you spent a lot of your explanation to address other editors insted of explaining how the sources were considered in determining the consensus.
somehow came to the conclusion that everything in the close should have been a response to you specifically, and got offended that the close was directed at the major participants You may write even more to major participants, but this isn't related to anything on how the sources were considered when consensus was determined. My point is that I was only interested on how sources were considered and that is why I said "I don't care about that".
You still didn't answer how sources were considered. And you still didn't answer why you failed to provide the consensus on the point a).
RfC asked 2 questions and the second question is the same as your purposed formulation: Should "At the time of his birth Croatian Military Frontier was a dependent province held by the Austrian Empire as part of Kingdom of Croatia." be added after the first sentence in the "Early years" section?. The RfC second question: Should we include that additional context in the article by adding the following sentece from source 1: " At that time, a portion of Croatia was the military frontier district of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the area was referred to as Vojna Krajina" 93.141.181.3 (talk) 14:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Both questions ask whether a sentece should be added to article. Only difference is that you used Carlson's sentece and the RfC uses O'Neills. You calim the RfC isn't neutral and your purposal is the same as RfCs? 93.141.181.3 (talk) 14:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Mate, if you think that a 36-word opening statement is the same as a 256-word one, I look forward to this close review! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
What are you answering? On the point of neutrality? You said RfC is not neutral. I asked you to provide an explanation and/or example of how a neutral RfC would look like. And you produced the same exact formulation as the second question for RfC itself? Please explain how your forumation is neutral and second question from RfC isn't. 93.141.181.3 (talk) 15:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Mate, do you realize that your formulation is the same as the RfCs regarding neutrality? Shall we go to dispute resolution board with both formulations to ask uninvoved editors which one is neutral and which one isn't? 93.141.181.3 (talk) 15:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
No worries, I have created a close review section at WP:AN. You are welcome to post comments below, and I will forward it on to that noticeboard. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:16, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
I can't edit there. It's protected. This is the post I'd like to post there.
The closure haven't provided any explanation on how the consensus was determined. No explanation on how sources were considered when establishing the consensus. No explanation on other points from the discussion. Improper use of SYNTH and OR and unsourced claims, Gish galloping. The RfC stated 2 questions and the consensus was provided only on due weight. I would like an explanation on how a group of editors who disagree with the sources can have a valid stand against presented sources without any sources of their own. 93.141.181.3 (talk) 15:22, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
From the closure explanation , I expect the following. Name all participants and name the points they made and sources they posted. Name couterpoints others have made to their points and explain how the points were evaluated in determining the consensus. 93.141.181.3 (talk) 15:26, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Regardless of the AN thread. I still expect an explanation from you on the neutrality point, since your purposed "neutral" formulation is exactly the same as RfCs 2nd question. How do you explain your claim that the RfC isn't neutral 93.141.181.3 (talk) 15:24, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Do you want me to post this at AN? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:45, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
~~ AirshipJungleman29, as a slightly more involved participant than 93.141.181.3, my opinion is your closing was excellent. There's no need to feed trolls like 93.141.181.3, he's just looking for attention. --ChetvornoTALK 09:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Patterson DYK

Thanks for your comment on the 'First person to do hooks' on Mary Jane Patterson. Good point. Where should I leave my ideas for alternative hooks? Balance person (talk) 11:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Balance person, on the nomination is best. See e.g. Template:Did you know nominations/David Fishwick for an example of how to format the alternative hooks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:33, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
OK I hope I have done it correctly. I have changed the main hook and explained why. Have left ALT1 hook and explained why. If something else is, needed do let me know? Thanks for your help. Balance person (talk) 13:03, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
I see you have done it correctly for me. Thank you. I couldn't see how to add a new improved hook. I usually use visual editor and find the other editor hard to do! Could you tell me what happens next? Does an administrator have to decide now? Balance person (talk) 16:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello again, Just a note to say that I have agreed with the latest hook on DYK for MJP and have edited that first paragraph that was difficult to parse. Do let me know if there is anything else I should do? Thanks. Balance person (talk) 10:13, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
We will see if another promoter feels it is interesting enough to promote. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:49, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Armand Duplantis

Hi, do you have privileges to restrict the above page to registered users only, or how do you request that? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armand_Duplantis

Cheers Billsmith60 (talk) 10:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

I have requested temporary protection at WP:RFPP—I'm not an admin so can't do it myself. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:59, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Many thanks! Billsmith60 (talk) 16:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

FAC

You kindly made a suggestion or two on my talk page while I was preparing the article on The Importance of Being Earnest for FAC. It is now at FAC, and any further comments you may have will be greatly appreciated, if you are inclined to look in. Tim riley talk 21:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Will try to stop by. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Draft:Mohamed Aly Ahmed CSD decline

I felt it only polite to mention this personally. I rarely decline CSD nominations. This one I feel may be salvageable, though I half agree that WP:TNT would be a good place to start. I left a longish edit summary when I declined it. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

No worries. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Can a line about Hotula Khan be added to the Genghis Khan FA?

Hi, I recently read that Hotula Khan was the great uncle of Genghis, and was tortured to death by the Tatars and/or the Jin. The source said that this was why Genghis took revenge against these two states. Do you think this is notable enough to be added to the Genghis Khan article? I think it is but just wanted to confirm. Matarisvan (talk) 06:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Matarisvan, if he existed, Hotula's campaigns and death against the Jin were in retaliation for the death of his predecessor Ambaghai, who is mentioned in the article and my most RS. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:24, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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Did you by any chance consider reading the guide to arbitration before opening a request, Potymkin? Serious question. WP:BUTT may have been useful reading prior to posting an AI-generated comment denying use of AI. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

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Promotion of List of emperors of the Yuan dynasty

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story · music · places

Congratulations! - Today's story has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022, impressed me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Recommended reading today: Frye Fire, by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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Request

Although this is a little far stretched request, I would like you to review National Intelligence and Security Service if they meet the good article criteria. I have seen you been heavily involved, and it would be a pleasure if you could do so in this article I have heavily helped modified. CtasACT (talk) 22:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I will do so CtasACT, but the result will likely not be to your liking. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
It's fine, being honest is a good quality to have! If I have changes to make I'll do so. CtasACT (talk) 23:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

GAR

Hello AirshipJungleman29, would you kindly undo this revision as I'm currently working on that GAR please. I'm gonna assume you did not go through the discussion. I'm currently tied up with school and work plus lack of mobile data so I cannot speed up the process. I don't think that article anywhere near GA status, and only me and article creator were discussing, obviously he would never agree to delist Thank you so much for understanding. dxneo (talk) 22:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello missy, as the project creator, would you please add your assessment and support as to why you initiated the GAR? dxneo (talk) 23:02, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Why would I not go through a discussion I closed dxneo? I have closed hundreds of GARs, and many article creators have agreed to delist. Why not start another GAR when you have more time to work on the article? If you are certain that that will happen shortly, I can reopen. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:10, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for responding in timely manner. I guess I'll finish my review before reopening. I'll ping you to stop by when it's done. dxneo (talk) 23:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of Siege of Baghdad

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Mentorship questions Aug–Sep

Question from Kinish Tivane

How do i edit --Kinish Tivane (talk) 15:29, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Kinish Tivane, you might like to have a look at the Wikipedia Adventure, which should set you up nicely for editing. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:37, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Can I write and publish a piece of my opinion --Kinish Tivane (talk) 15:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi Kinish Tivane. Wikipedia is not for personal opinions or original research. It is for encyclopedic articles on subjects that have been talked about by independent, reliable sources. Hope that helps. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

i personally think pythons should be hunted to extinction because of the growing population of them. We might find ourselves hunted to extinction because of the pythons Kinish Tivane (talk) 16:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

i think we should hold a weekly debating class at Saturdays to address the problems affecting our world. The person who wins the debate gets points and virtual medals Kinish Tivane (talk) 16:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi Kinish Tivane, this sort of comments are contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. If you continue, please do so on your own talk page; otherwise, focus your attention on improving articles. I will remove any further such comments. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:13, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from JohnKristofferRamos

Hello sir, just done an edit but I don't see it in my draft, it's 1979 but I only see 1973-1976 --JohnKristofferRamos (talk) 19:49, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi JohnKristofferRamos, I believe the problem is that you did not close one of your in-text comments using --> on the line that starts "1976". Can I ask if you are related to Trovador Ramos Sr.? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes I am, he's the Filipino Man that defeated bruce lee, JohnKristofferRamos (talk) 20:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
If you are related to him, please follow the steps outlined at WP:COIEDIT JohnKristofferRamos. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Steven R. Bolton

My "user name" is Steven R. Bolton, but I would like to be listed and searched as "Steve Bolton"

Is this possible? --Steven R. Bolton (talk) 19:59, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Steven R. Bolton. If this is in relation to your userpage, please note that advertising and promotional text, such as you have placed there, is unsuitable for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is for encyclopedic articles on notable subjects. As such, your userpage will shortly be deleted.
If this is unrelated to your userpage, no, your username is how you will be listed and searched by on Wikipedia. You can however change your signature—see WP:CUSTOMSIG for how to do that. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Eking2930

I need to edit some details related to me the person. --Eking2930 (talk) 18:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Eking2930, do you have a Wikipedia page? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Williamsr73

Can schools make you pay a fee for fundraiser you did not participate in --Williamsr73 (talk) 23:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Williamsr73 that seems a little unfair, but the schools might have terms and conditions that force you to pay a fee. Always read the small print! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Abdulrahman mohammed usman

Has kebbi state university of science and technology have start applying for civil Engeeneering --Abdulrahman mohammed usman (talk) 07:40, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

You'll have to ask them Abdulrahman mohammed usman. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:09, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Singhgarima.295

hi, i have added an article, and have edited some. it says the pages have published but the new article I wrote does not pop up when I search for it. Can you please help? --healer27 (talk) 16:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Singhgarima.295, the big problem here is that the page you wrote is AI-generated, entirely promotional, and completely against what Wikipedia is for. I will leave some helpful links on your userpage. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:21, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback. Appreciate it. Does that mean the page will not be live? When you leave the links can you please add links for some company pages, so we know how to write these pages?
Alos, why does it say my title on the top of the page? I would like my name to be anonymous. healer27 (talk) 04:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
If you want to request a username change, you can do so at this link Singhgarima.295; until then, your username is visible to all. For company pages, please see WP:NOTPROMO. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Petefrlin

Hello, I just read the "Three Percenters" Wiki page and realized most of it is debatable or inapplicable since the SCOTUS decision on 18 USC 1512 (c) 2 (et al) largely dismantled all the Felony Conspiracy and Obstruction of an official proceeding charges against J6ers. (Links below), It sounds like the guys are already out of prison. Unclear how each was held, pretrial confinement perhaps allowing time served. Is it common to just put a disclaimer at the top-mid-bottom of the Page to warn readers that SCOTUS disallowed charges (with better wording)?

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/justices-rule-for-jan-6-defendant/

https://www.gibsondunn.com/supreme-court-limits-scope-of-sarbanes-oxley-prohibition-on-obstructing-official-proceedings/

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11126

Pete --Petefrlin (talk) 23:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Petefrlin. I must admit that not being an American, I don't understand most of what you have written. But that is the good thing about Wikipedia—people who know more, such as yourself, can update the article to match reality. You can do this by removing the information that is incorrect, or rewriting it to make it clear that it has been superseded. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:29, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Luyabd

How do I create an article --Luyabd (talk) 18:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

The links on your talk page might be helpful Luyabd. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Sorry to see you withdraw

To be frank, that discussion was not a fair evaluation of your merits. The more I looked into the diffs and discussions the opposes raised, the more indignant I became about how much context had been blatantly omitted. I can't imagine how much more frustrating it must have been on your end. I hope it doesn't get you too down. – Teratix ₵ 09:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Nah, don't worry. Some of it was frustrating bullshit, sure, but so is a lot of the stuff on here. I judge my time on WP by the impact I've had on the readers, and there are only a couple of editors in the opposes who can say they have done a similar or better job. At the end of the day, I'm glad that I chose to ran the gauntlet, and the consequences of failure aren't as high as they are for these guys. Now though, I have articles to write and a WikiCup to win. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:57, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Despite the opposers, you deserve one of these. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:53, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks SC. Signed, a grumpy content editor ;) ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Name

I missed your RfA but will take this opportunity to inquire about your user name, if I may. "AirshipJungleman29" sounds like it means something such as Can a new airship unlock the Amazon? but I can't really place it. I've looked through your userboxes but they don't seem to help. Please oblige us with more details. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

There was a game I played as a child set in a sort of steampunk world, where you used an airship as a base to explore a jungle. I've tried to find that game again, but no luck. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

For what it's worth

In the situation that I asked about in the question, my concern wasn't that you called the image dull or that you cared about systemic bias. It was that you unilaterally removed Bruxton's use of the image. You're both very experienced at DYK and that interaction left me feeling like maybe you two have a history? It's possible that I'm just completely missing the point but that's what it seemed like to me as an outside observer. I will say that DYK is an area that sorely needs admins. It's why I !voted neutral. I will say that I understand why people have temperament concerns, even if you may have been right on the merits of some of these situations. But the way these situations are approached matters too, especially as an admin. I will say that I didn't see anything problematic with your responses to mentorship questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't think we have a "history" and certainly not about promoting. It's normal to have disagreements at DYK, but they normally resolve well (see e.g. here, or the Christmas set Lightburst brought up). I enjoy Bruxton's article's on old photographs, I remember one on Babe Ruth that was especially powerful. Also, would you really say that the response at #September 2024, to an editor using AI generation to bring an arbitration request denying use of AI generation, is unworthy of an admin? If it is, then I am 100% happy the RfA didn't progress very far. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:48, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
I think maybe you don't realize that it's more than normal disagreements. But that's not for me to share. I will say it's a large part of why I could not bring myself to support your RfA. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:53, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
As for Also, would you really say that the response at #September 2024, to an editor using AI generation to bring an arbitration request denying use of AI generation, is unworthy of an admin? If it is, then I am 100% happy the RfA didn't progress very far, please reread what I actually said. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:55, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
I know what you wrote Clovermoss, sorry for the misunderstanding. I am asking a different question, one which focuses on the #September 2024 section above, which another admin feels I should have responded to in a more civil manner. I don't know what your first comment is getting at, I am genuinely sorry. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:59, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
I would've left out the link to WP:BUTT but I don't think that comment was otherwise out of line, no. As for my first comment, I hope you understand what I mean by it someday. There's not much I can say without betraying the confidence of other editors. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Fair enough. See you around then. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Kokejin

Stumbled across Draft:Kokejin and saw you declined it. As someone more familiar with the related history, is the first empress dowager of Yuan not notable? Obviously the draft could do with better writing, but is that it? Right now it's been resubmitted with no changes. Reconrabbit 14:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Reconrabbit, the issue is of significant coverage. If you look at the article itself, you'll see that most of it focuses on events surrounding the Yuan court in Kokejin's life, not of her herself. The source are similar: there is little more than "she was the senior wife of Zhenjin and the mother of Temur". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm seeing that there is very little said about Kokejin herself. I just assumed that I wasn't seeing something in the sources, most of which I can't read, and it doesn't help that the name keeps changing within the text. Will decline as no improvement. Reconrabbit 15:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

DCWC closing update

The 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest has come to a close! After a thrilling finish to the event with a slew of submissions on the final day, we have our winners. With 608 points, Bronze Belt Buckle – 3rd place Thebiguglyalien (submissions) comes in third with his series of Kiribati and Botswanan submissions; Silver Belt Buckle – 2nd place Tuvalu BeanieFan11 (submissions) flies into second place at the last second with 771 points after a string of good articles about sportspersons; and after leading for much of contest's three months, Gold Belt Buckle – 1st place Generalissima (submissions) finishes with a whopping 798 points to take home the Gold Belt Buckle. Congratulations to our winners!

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