User talk:Bob74

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Re: Timperley and Altringham

Bob74, I think you misunderstand here. Firstly, whilst Wikipedia encourages users to freely contribute to the website, it does have very strict policies about its content.

Your assertion about the postal county may well be true. However, conversely, it may well not be, and infact, should a serious academic researcher need facts about Altringham, they may be presented with something which is merely an opinion at best, and a fabrication at worst. I and many other uses have expressed objection at your comment, and are, rightly or wrongly, allowed under policy to remove it at anytime.

Thus you should not add mentions of the Cheshire postal county to this article (or related articles). It is expressly forbidden to add statements of this nature, and a policy exists about this.

Wikipedia:Verifiability

This page in a nutshell:

Articles should contain only material that has been published by reliable sources.
Editors adding new material to an article should cite a reliable source, or it may be challenged or removed by any editor.
The obligation to provide a reliable source lies with the editors wishing to include the material, not on those seeking to remove it.

Note, that I as well as the other user you rather aggressively mention (which goes against Wikipedia:Civility), are obliged to remove your comments as they are not within the spirit of Wikipedia's aims.

If you can find a definitive, reliable source which dictates that most of Alringham's people use Cheshire as a postal county (which they are actually wrong to do so anyway), then by all means you may include your statement. However, again, this would not be useful for the lead section of the article as no other settlement based article in the entire UK uses this formulation, as it is mere triva at best.

Again, counties have been notoriously controvertial, and your comments also appear to devalue the uses of modern counties. Note:

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places) Counties of Britain

This page in a nutshell: All Wikipedia articles about an existing British settlement or locality should use the current, administrative, county (e.g. Greater Manchester). Metropolitan counties, and other such modern counties, should be treated as counties and as a primary geographic reference frame. We should not take the minority position that the historic counties still exist with the former boundaries.

Please note, that my attempts to remove your statement are not personal, they are merely within the guidelines of Wikipedia, and I actually have the article's best intrests at heart. You cannot just add that the majority of the Traffordonian's use Cheshire as part of their address - this sweeping statement is unacceptable and would never be seen on a more mature article such as New York City.

Be mindful that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and your comment would NEVER be found in any other serious encyclopedia, especially in the introduction.

Until you find a source, myself, User:Saga_City and any other editor with the article's best interests at heart have an obligation to remove your statements. Your time would be better spent improving the bulk of the article's text as it is currently one of the worst articles for the Greater Manchester area.

I hope that clears a few things up. I'm sorry this really isn't up for debate as policy is crystal clear. Should you persist, in good faith or not, your contribution is nothing but vandalism, and you could find yourself blocked from editing articles. Best of luck for the future, Jhamez84 15:57, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Official address

Actually, the official address is Altringham, Cheshire. Bizarrely, the Post Office never recognised Greater Manchester or Greater London. Similarly, Dagenham in Greater London is still Dagenham, Essex in its address. There are a lot of oddities in addresses. You shouldn't put a county after Huddersfield, as some villages in Lancashire come under it, so its postal domain covers both sides of the Pennines.Epa101 17:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]