User talk:Jackatley

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Welcome

Hi, Jackatley. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck! Chzz ► 16:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to read anything - anybody can edit; just go to an article and edit it. Be Bold, but please don't put silly stuff in - it will be removed very quickly, and will annoy people.

Ask for help. Talk to us live, or edit this page, put {{helpme}} and describe what help you need. Someone will reply very quickly - usually within a few minutes.

Play in your user area. For example, create User:Jackatley/test.

Edit existing articles, before you make your own. Look at some subjects that you know about, and see if you can make them a bit better. For example, Wikipedia:Cleanup#2009.

When you're ready, read about Your first article. It should be about something well-known, and it will need references.

Good luck with editing; please drop me a line some time on my own talk page.

There's lots of information below. Once again, welcome to the fantastic world of Wikipedia!

-- Chzz ► 16:22, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Autobiography

You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved, as you did at Jack atley. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced BLPs

Hello Jackatley! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to insure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. if you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 689 article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the article:

Jack Atley - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 21:39, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

May 2012

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Tilt-shift photography. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. Alexf^(talk) 12:13, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Correct Procedure

The correct procedure is listed at WP:BIOSELF and involves proving that you are who you say you are to Wikipedia staff (of which I am not, I'm a volunteer). The fact that an editor with an account "Jackatley" says there is something wrong with the article Jack Atley doesn't matter. The account could have been created by a Norwegian named "Sven Svenson". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talk • contribs) 11:33, 10 July 2017 (UTC) Yes, and it also could have been done by the actual person Jack Atley. Who is me. If you want to get into the argument about who is who and what is real on the internet, what even is Wikipedia? This could have been devised by 'Sven in Sweden'. Whilst I am on it...who are you?[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Jackatley. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Help desk.
Message added 20:41, 2 August 2017 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Seagull123 Φ 20:41, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

September 2017

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Jack Atley, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. General Ization ^Talk 15:49, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And you have been given extremely clear instructions above as to how to proceed if you would like to prove your identity and make an official request concerning the status of the article you vandalized. In the mean time, see WP:OWN and review the instructions above. General Ization ^Talk 15:56, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Jack Atley. General Ization ^Talk 15:57, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This, this, and this is vandalism. The claim that your conversations with Wikipedia concerning the page have not resulted in the outcome you wish does not make them anything else. I do not know what responses you have received, so I cannot restate them, nor modify whatever decisions they express. You might note, however, that I changed "was" to "is" in the lead of the article since there is no cited source that suggests that the subject is deceased or has ceased to be a photographer. In general, an artist or even a technician does not stop being an artist or a technician when they choose to no longer engage in that activity as their profession. Since I cannot assume that you are the subject, and there is no cited source concerning the current professional activities of the subject or that they have "ceased" to be a photographer, your most recent edit will also be reverted. If you edit the article further without providing a citation of a reliable source to support the edit, you will be blocked from editing. General Ization ^Talk 16:14, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The lead, by the way, doesn't state that the subject is currently active as a professional photographer; it simply states that the subject is a photographer, and recounts a notable body of work (with citations) that supports that statement. General Ization ^Talk 16:24, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Atley, which was closed as Keep (i.e., the article was not eligible for deletion). General Ization ^Talk 16:28, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How to proceed

Below are the full instructions on how to proceed from Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons on how to deal with your biography. It is important that you prove to the volunteer response team that you are Jack Atley. For now you must stop editing the article. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 18:04, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing with articles about yourself

Shortcuts
WP:BIOSELF
WP:BLPSELF
WP:BLPCOMPLAIN
WP:BLPCOMPLAINT

Wikipedia has editorial policies that will often help to resolve your concern, as well as many users willing to help and a wide range of escalation processes. Very obvious errors can be fixed quickly, including by yourself. But beyond that, post suggestions on the article talk page, or place {{help me}} on your user talk page. You may also post an explanation of your concern on the biographies of living persons noticeboard and ask that uninvolved editors evaluate the article to make sure it is fairly written and properly sourced.
If you are an article subject and you find the article about you contains your personal information or potentially libelous statements contact the oversight team so that they can evaluate the issue and possibly remove it from the page history.
Please bear in mind that Wikipedia is almost entirely operated by volunteers; impolite behavior, even if entirely understandable, will often be less effective.

Legal issues

Subjects who have legal or other serious concerns about material they find about themselves on a Wikipedia page, whether in a BLP or elsewhere, may contact the Wikimedia Foundation's volunteer response team (known as OTRS). Please e-mail info-en-q@wikimedia.org with a link to the article and details of the problem; for more information on how to get an error corrected, see here. It is usually better to ask for help rather than trying to change the material yourself.
As noted above, individuals involved in a significant legal or other off-wiki dispute with the subject of a biographical article are strongly discouraged from editing that article.

September 2017

Your recent editing history at Jack Atley shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:32, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Jack

We explained to you two years ago how to proceed to prove your identity and request changes to or removal of this article. If you choose not to follow that procedure, none of these things will happen. General Ization ^Talk 03:31, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, if you are not currently a practicing photographer, why are you operating a Web site that not only says that you are, but gives others tips on photography (as recently as April of this year)? General Ization ^Talk 03:34, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]