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Regarding this ismage, I see that you are now saying that you are the copyright holder? Does that mean that you took the photograph, or hired someone to take it? It has the appearance of being a professional photograph taken in the course of an event, so I'm confused. Please clarify the circumstances of your ownership of the photograph. Will Beback talk 19:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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October 2009

I have removed your message on User talk:Vawavictim; Wikipedia is not intended for this kind of personal messaging. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 20:03, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Violence Against Women Act. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Let me make this abundantly clear: the additions you made to the article cannot be accepted--this singling out of certain nationalities, and the making of blanket accusations that such foreign women are crybabies abusing US laws, that is beyond the pale. You said, "However, some foreigners would prefer not to remain married that long, and would prefer simply to get married, and shortly afterwards make a false domestic violence claim. For them, the four years is too long." That belongs on the message board of your advocacy group, not in an encyclopedic article. Drmies (talk) 21:23, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will make edits to the article to eliminate references to nationalities; the orgigon of that is the crime is promoted in NY by Russian crime groups, but I will take that out nonetheless, so it does not appear biased. I will also clean up the comments about "not wanting to remain married that long". They key point that I am trying to convey is that this is a new twist to immigration fraud introduced by VAWA. Even before VAWA, the federal Government estimated that 30% of those obtaining a Green Card through marriage were doing so fraudulently. In a big city like NY or LA, the wait for a Green Card after marriage can be up to 4.5 years. VAWA has reduced the time to less than a year in many cases. Once an alien who marries a US Citizen has his or her first INS interview, they can claim to be a DV victim, and become eligible for a Green Card. However, to get the Green Card they usually have to get the accused arrested, or at least get a Stay Away Order of Protection. This is has become widespread.

Drmies, the one thing I do respectfully insist is that you do not accuse me of vandalism; you may not be pleased or agree with what I write, and I am open to constructive criticism, and I will make every good faith effort to cover the topic accurately and fairly, with proper attribution and sourcing. However, it is not appropriate to call covering an issue like this vandalism. Other writers besides myself have tried to address this issue on the VAWA pages, and it must be. VAWA has a created a serious change in US Immigration procedures, and a huge loophole in the system; this is appropriate to discuss in a reference doc

Violence Against Women Act

I'm posting here what I posted on the talk page.

You're naming what appear to be living people, but using only primary sources to write about them. You must use secondary sources e.g. newspapers or books. Please read our policy on living persons, Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, carefully before proceeding. This section must not be restored with that material in it, unless you find reliable secondary sources and stick closely to what they say. Also, please note that the sources must discuss the case with reference to the Violence Against Women Act. We can't publish material about living persons based on a Wikipedian putting two and two together: see WP:SYN. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 03:35, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm even more confused now that I've read through the court document. It doesn't seem to mention the two names you published, but does seem to be about you. This is highly inappropriate; see WP:COI, WP:BLP, and WP:NOR. You really must not restore it, or you risk being blocked, as this is a serious violation of our policies. The purpose of Wikpedia articles is only to tell readers what reliable sources (and that usually means secondary sources such as books, newspapers, and academic articles) are saying about a given topic. We're not allowed to use articles to engage in personal advocacy, and particularly not where living people are concerned. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 03:50, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

... [edited per BLP] The VAWA record is in very detailed in the Appellate Record. Are you saying that the Appellate Record is not sufficient? kops2222

There is no Conflict of Interest here. The court cases have been adjudicated. The only interest here is to ensure that the discussion of VAWA is complete and balanced. Omission of any discussion about the Green Card loophole, which is well documented now in the web, is included. if you feel that some of my edits were unclear or opinionated, I do not object if edit them, but do not delete the entire topic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kops2222 (talk • contribs)

I have blocked you for 12 hours for restoring the material with a false edit summary that said the names had been removed. You are not allowed to edit about living people with whom you're involved in personal legal disputes, or about any living person without reliable secondary sources. Please understand that Wikipedia takes the BLP policy very seriously. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 04:14, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do not refer to it on your talk page either, please, or I will protect the page. If it is such a famous case, newspapers will have written about it, and others can add it to the article. But you must not discuss it with reference only to court papers. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 04:16, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not add or change content, as you did to Venture capital, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Hearsay is not a proper source. NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Tsumikiria⧸ 🌹🌉 17:19, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tsumikiria, I understand your point, but I did not phrase the comment in a partisan way. There are more than 100 contemporaneous press articles which make the same point. It is an objective fact, not my opinion, that Amazon had committed to bringing 25,000 new jobs to her own congressional district and its environs, and AOC lead a movement to oppose that, and it was successful. It is certainly controversial for a member of Congress to work so hard to expunge that many new jobs from her own district. I certainly plan to reinstate the edit, and this time I will add several dozen references. And I respect your right to express your own opinion on the matter, but AOC's position remains extremely controversial, and it is not appropriate for you to expunge any reference to it in her wiki biography. Please explain why you think this is an opinioned statement, as oppose to objective fact? I also you a chance to propose words that seem less opinioned to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kops2222 (talk • contribs)

25,000 out-of-state jobs that will benefit close to nothing to her constituent local New Yorkers.
The movement was spontaneous, she didn't lead it but was rather targeted by opponents for her stance.
"Extremely controversial" or "widely criticized", as defined by plutocrats and billionaire financiers, or just you.
Your proposed content is in a highly opinionated editorial language and placing it in the first paragraph of the lead is an obvious WP:BLP and WP:UNDUE violation.

You need to use the talk page to discuss further with other editors and try to reach a consensus. Editing without consensus will in all certainty have other things brought upon you. I will not comment further in this thread. Tsumikiria⧸ 🌹🌉 22:05, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Lee Ah-in (November 4)

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The tone of this article remains highly problematic, despite a plethora of edits since the last review. This whole wall of text needs copy editing, removal of the multiple references and a consideration of the huge 83 references cited. Are these truly necessary to create a balanced, encyclopaedic article? I would counsel creating a much shorter, more factual and neutrally phrased article with fewer references to salient facts - I would also suggest a read of WP:FANCRUFT. Best

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Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:01, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Alexandermcnabb, for taking the time to comment on the article about Lee Ah-in. I work in the music industry in the US and have been following the trend of Asian acts starting to dominate major Music Group revenues; last week the largest music group in the world, Universal Music, announced that their of their 5 top selling acts last quarter, 3 were Korean (kpop), 1 was Japanese, and only one was American. I have previously successfully submitted 4 other articles, but I am really struggling with this one. The music industry is reaching an inflection point in which it is starting to become truely global. Part of the reason is social media like TikTok in which artists build relationships with fans. But also driving this is artists that can speak to their audiences in their own language. To my knowledge, Lee Ah-in is the first pop star that speaks fluent maderin, flunet english, as well as korean, japanese, etc. No other popular music star could do this before her, and we see the impact on record labels and music promoters are formulating new acts going forward with polygots. I probably did a poor job explaining this in my article but this is a trend and Asia is the center of this trend. It is like the "British invasion" of the 1960s when the Beatles and Rolling Stones lead all the British acts came to the US. But this new trend is coming principally from Korea, and the relative success of Lee Ah-in and her group Momoland is important not because of the group itself, but it is a prototype of what the new global music industry is going to look like.

I can see that you are probably correct about FANCRUFT and I will work on that. What I do not understand however, was your comment about excessive references; while I was writing this article -- it took more than 4 months -- I saw article after article rejected for lack of references to support that notorieity of the subject. I went out of my way to use quality references -- Elle, Billboard, Rolling Stone, Vogue, New Music Express (UK), CBS, Singapore Starights Times --- and then from multiple countries: I used articles from Russia, Cambodia, India, Italy, England, USA, Mexico, and hardly any from Korea; if you compare that to other articles about Kpop stars almost all the sources are from Korea. I did use multuple Youtube videos too, but I had to to support the point about dance covers from multiple countries, and that point is not supportable without including videos. If I remove that, then important points about the transition of the music industry, for which this recording artists is a lynchpin, gets lost completely. I know you have already spent time on this, but if you could better explain why having so many quality references is a bad thing that would clear up some of my confusion.

Thank you.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Lee Ah-in (March 12)

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the subject currently does not meets the WP:GNG, WP:NBLP, WP:SINGER, and WP:BANDMEMBER criteria showing no significant coverage for individual notability from secondary reliable sources that is independent of the subject apart from passing mentions from Momoland's related reportings and/or DJ Soda's related reportings and/or digest/rundown/roundup's news.

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