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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (July 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Dan arndt were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Fails WP:NMUSIC, Google search, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer are not acceptable or reliable sources.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Dan arndt (talk) 12:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dan arndt

Hello Dan,

I am replying to you because your reasons are full of inaccuracies such as when I included the part on Deezer, YouTube etc that was to show where to listen to them.

Another point that I want to make was during my first draft I had extensive information, references and links that were all denied.

I find it incredibly rude that you expect someone to have so much in the page but don't let them include the information especially while talking about a smaller band that isn't greatly known.

please get back to me LT1223 (talk) 12:26, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, LT1223! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Dan arndt (talk) 12:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Citizen Soldier

Any article needs to address the requirements of WP:GNG. This means the article needs to be written in an objective manner as it is an encyclopaedic article. The article should not be promotional or advertising (therefore no need to contain links showing where you can listen to their music - that's not the point of Wikipedia. Also, all the information contained within the article should be referenced with reliable secondary sources (see Wikipedia's guide to referencing for beginners). In this case the band's website is a primary source and is not independent or reliable, neither is Discogs (which is user generated without any independent editorial oversight) or Pianity.com (for the same reasons). Finally google search is not an acceptable source - you need to identify and quote specific sources not a search engine. I hope that clarifies my assessment - good luck in your future editing. Dan arndt (talk) 09:52, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dan arndt The problem is that there are no secondary sources what should I do about that then LT1223 (talk) 09:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If there are no reliable secondary sources then it would appear that the band is not notable at this point in time.Dan arndt (talk) 10:12, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dan arndt would it be easier to make pages on the members themselves for now and try that till more sources come out? LT1223 (talk) 10:14, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest that you familiarise yourself with the requirements of WP:NMUSICIAN / WP:ANYBIO, and ensure that you are able to demonstrate that there is significant coverage in multiple independent reliable secondary sources. Dan arndt (talk) 10:16, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (August 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, Citizen Soldier (Band), which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please do not create multiple drafts on the same topic.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:41, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DoubleGrazing it is only a duplicate because I tried to restart the other one but it wasn't letting me LT1223 (talk) 07:43, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what 'restart' means. There is a 'resubmit' button, which seems to work. Not that you should be resubmitting it until you've addressed the reasons for the earlier decline.

Be that as it may, creating multiple copies causes all sorts of problem, and could be considered an attempt to game the system, so please don't. Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:48, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DoubleGrazing I meant I tried to delete all the information I wrote to rewrite it but it wasn't letting me

Should've worded that better sorry LT1223 (talk) 07:51, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can blank the draft only if you want it to be deleted (and assuming you're the only editor to have substantively contributed to it). If you instead want to rewrite the content, you're welcome to do that by editing the body text, but don't delete everything as the earlier AfC declines and comments must remain there until the draft is accepted.

I also noticed that you seem to be editing under two different accounts. This isn't allowed, so I've posted a message on both accounts with info on this. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:59, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DoubleGrazing thank you I'll sort that out right away LT1223 (talk) 08:00, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think I have sorted it out but could you let me know if I have done it correctly if that is something you can do LT1223 (talk) 08:05, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

August 2023

Hello, LT1223, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia, such as LT1223.2 (talk · contribs). Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who misuse multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:55, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DoubleGrazing they are both my accounts but I use the other one if the other one isn't working properly LT1223 (talk) 07:59, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding User:LT1223/sandbox

Hello, LT1223. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that User:LT1223/sandbox, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 08:05, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]