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Julie Anne Robinson

May I ask, why do you want Robinson's biography deleted? There's currently a {{db-userreq}} template on it. Perhaps you meant to have this user sub-page deleted? (reply here, I have it watchlisted). JamieS93 20:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, yes, I do mean this page. I forgot to check if I had been redirected- thanks so much for catching that. Liquidluck (talk) 20:26, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I figured that this nice article recently featured at DYK was not worth deletion. ;) Best, JamieS93 20:31, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hoedown Throwdown

Today you made a major edit to Hoedown Throwdown, including a broken reference <ref name=prod"/>. Could you please go back and add the details of that reference, or tell me where you found it? Thank you, Debresser (talk) 11:00, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Was fixed by Ipodnano05 in this edit. Debresser (talk) 21:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Musicnotes.com

Hi, Liquidluck. I saw this edit you made to Hoedown Throwdown a few days ago, describing the composition of the song. Does this mean you have access to the Musicnotes.com website? From what I gather, you have to download some free software, but to look at the sheet music costs money.. is that correct? Matthewedwards : Chat 04:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your quick reply. I never really understood how it worked, so that helps a lot. Thank you! Matthewedwards : Chat 04:32, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hannah Montana: The Movie

Hey Liquidluck! Thanks a lo for the peer review comments for Hannah Montana: The Movie (soundtrack). They were really helpful. I'm going to be revamping and working on articles pertaining to Hannah Montana: The Movie to make it a Good Topic. Do you want to join? You have much more experience in film articles, the article for The Last Song is amazing. Please reply and thank you for your time. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 05:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I think we should do just the movie and the soundtrack. What do you think? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 05:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't it be the movie, the soundtrack, and the songs. Is that acceptable? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 06:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, Hoedown Throwdown is a GA and the soundtrack and Let's Get Crazy are currently nominees. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 06:09, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, I definitely think collaborating would be better because its funner. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 06:21, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. About the track listings I usually base it off what is already there,plus I look in iTunes and Amazon.com. Some don't have much for track listings (usually more of dance type songs have that because of remixes). Hope that helps! -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 06:37, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm... I think starting it off with You'll Always Find Your Way Back Home would be cool. When though? I think this weekend, is that alright with you? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 06:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't get online yesterday. I see you started and I'm going to also. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 20:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Crazier (Taylor Swift song)

I think Crazier (Taylor Swift song) is just about done for a Good Article nomination. what do you think? Can you add more critic reviews? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:13, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, are there any live performances? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The lead might also need more bulk. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:20, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's a pretty good hook. It leads to everything in the article except some of the type of song. Add ballad in "she performed the ballad Crazier". Though, I don't see the point of nominating it for DYK when it could be GA. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:40, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. Wait what do you want to do with article? I didn't quite understand you. Also, we really need to find the promo release. I couldn't find it, can you please? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:49, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IT was though because chart stats gives it a cover... look at how Hoedown Throwdown has the album cover and how Crazier has a single cover. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 05:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. Now let's do You'll Always Find Your Way Back Home, I already nominated Crazier for GA. Do you want to do this one more? I mean be the main contributor. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 05:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, I collaborating is definitely fun. I was just asking, you know. Whatever you want. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 05:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You'll Always Find Your Way Back Home

I already started on the article. Come and join. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 07:09, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey... please help with the article so that we could finish it today. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. That makes sense becuse I can't find much for Background and Critical REcpetion. Let's do Butterfly Fly Away. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception and background could be easier in there because it was in Back to Tennesssee, the album has much more reviews because it's a studio album. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:36, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lol... we were both thinking the same thing. Great minds think alike ;) -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:38, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, before that I've seen that you add the publishers in citations wrong. I added them like that too and then on my first GA it was brought to attention. You can find them by looking in their article pages in Wikipedia and looking under owner or publisher. If you need help ask me? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Butterfly Fly Away

Hey are you done with the critical reception section? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:27, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:Legolas2186 told me. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 19:42, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey... I added some reviews to critical reception, all that is missing is chart performance - BTW would Bless the Broken Road fall under Hannah Montana: The Movie? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pawnee Zoo

The reason the Pawnee Zoo article was moved to Pawnee Zoo (Parks and Recreation) was because a user decided here that they should all have the (Parks and Recreation) distinction, I guess for further clarity, but also because it made a template easier on the front page. Personally, I don't really care one way or the other; when I was making the pages I made them without (Parks and Recreation) unless something already had that name, as per WP:TVMOS. But whatever we decide upon should have consistency; we should either move Pawnee Zoo back to Pawnee Zoo (Parks and Recreation), or move the others ones back... — Hunter Kahn _(c) 21:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chart trajectories in tables? [Invitation to discussion]

Hello Liquidluck,
I've seen some of your Wiki contributions, so I thought I'd stop by and extend an invitation to you to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Record charts#Chart trajectories in tables?. Please for completeness of discussion post all comments there. —Iknow23 (talk) 23:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hannah Montana: The Movie (video game)

Hey Liquidluck! I'm just wondering if you want to also make the video game adaption of Hannah Montana: The Movie a part of our Good Topic project. I know it's about a completely strange and unknown topic to the both of us, but I think it might be interesting. A challenge is always fun, I've been looking through Featured Articles and Good Articles that are video games and I think that we can do it. I'm just asking, I don't know if you want to do it and it wasn't originally part of our idea. I'm willing to do it, if you do it. Let me know in my talk page. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:30, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds kind of weird because the second one has all of the articles on the first one, wouldn't the second one be good enough? Also, I added some reviews to "Butterfly Fly Away" and am wondering if "Bless the Broken Road" fits into these songs, since the one on the soundtrack is only an acoustic version. Or maybe have two Good Topics, one being the soundtrack with all the songs under it, and the second being the movie, with the soundtrack and the video game under it. Here's what I picture:

First Good Topic

Hannah Montana: The Movie
- Soundtrack
- Video game

Second Good Topic

Hannah Montana: The Movie soundtrack
- "You'll Always Find Your Way Back Home"
- "Let's Get Crazy"
- "Hoedown Throwdown"
- "The Climb"
- "Butterfly Fly Away"
- "Back to Tennessee"
- "Crazier"

-- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:55, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The citation thing seems O.K. Which article do you want to do next? There's only 3 (YAFYWBH, The Climb and Back to Tennessee). -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 01:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let's start it right now. :) -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 01:53, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should we change the infobox to say its from HMTM not Back to Tennessee?? Is it even a single?? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 01:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We at least need to find cover art before nominating it for GA in a single infobox. Wait, I'll contact whoever is the major editor. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meanwhile User:EnDaLeCoMpLeX answers my message on his talk page we could do something. I could help you fix the citations in The Last Song if you want to. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:33, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. The Climb it is. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Climb (song)

For The Climb (song). I think we should begin by removing all of the information... it's of poor citation, format, prose, and quality. Let's begin from 0. Of course, we'll add the Template:Under construction. The same way we did in others. The article's past history can serve as a reference of what information we should include. I'll start with the music video and background section. What do you say? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. That's perfect. Yea, I was thinking what about the readers? But that makes sense. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 01:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you find critical reception? We need a lot more. I even think the article can one day be FA, check 4 Minutes (Madonna song) or Irreplaceable. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 19:54, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please also add the lyrics component to the Composition section . -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 20:58, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

About the podcast, I can't because I currently don't have iTunes and can't install it beacause I don't have the correct service pack. So,... can you do it. It's the UK London re carpet premiere. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:14, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm... in the music video section I cannot seem to find any interviews or commetns by Miley or the video director. Can you find some? I think I'm going to get started on Chart performance if you do music video. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 06:00, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Article on Adam Barnett

Hi there. Just wanted to pass on the following FYI link to a recently published local article on Adam Barnett. Also, thanks for monitoring and reversing unwanted entries in his stub article. Take care. http://www.paisano-online.com/a-e/utsa-student-to-appear-with-miley-cyrus-the-last-song-1.857748 Fluxions1643 (talk) 06:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ashley Tisdale]]

Thanks for reviewing Ashley Tisdale. Do you know where can I find a copy-editor? Do you know one? Thanks! Decodet (talk) 16:06, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for the help! Decodet (talk) 15:25, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I started to work in your comments. Should finish them by tomorrow. Feel free to check what I've done so far. I'm currently working basically on her film career. Tomorrow I'll work in her musical career. Decodet (talk) 02:12, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Climb (song) 2

I changed it because of the vocal range because her vocals are pretty rich in the song. They span three octaves. And I think her voice pretty high in some parts. I saw in a YouTube video Justin Bieber singing the song and he couldn't reach the same high notes, he's pretty high pitched as well. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 18:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, just making sure you read the post above. Also, please hurry up with the lyrics part of Composition, Critical reception, and Music video. That way we'll be able to nominate it for GA by tonight. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 20:30, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The "Party in the U.S.A." thing is a good point. I'll get back to you on that. I'm doing chart performance right now, which is the hardest section, I think. It's O.K. if we're not done by tonight, that was just my goal. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:01, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I played both and your right. It just felt a little weird, without listening, that it would have a two octave vocal span since "Send It On" goes probably as high and low as "The Climb" and E₃-C#₆. I already fixed the problem in your subpage. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 21:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like I can't even finish my part; I have two parties tonight. Totally forgot. It's better to take our time than to rush and have the page not be at its best state. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 23:15, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think so. Songs shouldn't even have alternative covers... just the first cover released. And I doubt that is even a cover... I bought the song as a digital download the day it came out and it had the soundtrack as an image. I haven't seen that anywhere, only in About.com. Amazon and millions other sites that have all the covers like Ultratop have the one that is currently in the infobox. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 01:03, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Liquidluck please hurry with the critical reception because when I nominated it for GA someone already offered to review it. I'll say yes if you add more info to that section. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 19:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. I'l tell him now. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 19:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The iTunes episode will just lead to the same place it is right now, so just changing the title would be O.K. About the reviews, did you format the citations? -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 23:26, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, I'll tell the reviewer. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 23:36, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject

I've been looking for several WikiProjects like WikiProject Britney Spears, there are only four participants and they only have two Good Articles. Seems like we could easily make a Wikiproject:Miley Cyrus and maybe later a Hannah Montana task force under Disney. That makes sense to me that way we can include her book, Big Fish, and other things branching out from Disney. I mean, she's sure to leave Disney at one point. We could contact the person that singed to my old WikiProject attempt and with one or two people we could have a very active Wikiproject. What do you say? Please reply. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 03:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. Good luck on that. Let's finish what we have on our hands. I'm halfway done with Chart performance and you could finish Critical reception. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 00:48, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm done with Chart performance and have added somethings to Critical reception, which is the only thing left. I'm moving it to the actual article. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 02:32, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Liquidluck please hurry with the critical reception because when I nominated it for GA someone already offered to review it. I'll say yes if you add more info to that section. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 04:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More information for The Climb (song)

Hey, Liquidluck. I found some info about the climb on an interview with Peter Chelsom but I'm not really sure how to add it to the article. Here is the the link. Could you see? It serves as a more to add for "Hoedown Throwdown", Hannah Montana: The Movie, and the soundtrack. And there is also another source for "The Climb". Also, our conversations have been all over the place so let's keep it in your talk page. Just contact me by leaving the Template:Talkback on my talkpage. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 01:15, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I've been observing your efforts from my watchlist earlier and just wanted to say you guys are doing a good job. Is therre anything in my review so far that you're not sure about or not happy with? If you want me, just leave {{tb|Liquidluck|More information for The Climb (song)}} on my talk page! Regards, HJMitchell You rang? 02:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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What to do next?

Hey Liquidluck! So what article do you want to do next, You'll Always Find Your Way Back Home or Back to Tennessee (song)? I would prefer the first, what about you? Just leave a template:talkback in my talk page. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:51, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

YAFYWBH sounds good! Liquidluck (talk) 21:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. Let's start. -- Ipodnano05 (talk) 22:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The Climb an YAFYWBH

I think we still need to add more information towards critical reception and music video to give article a peer review for FA. In music video, the inspiration and what Cyrus' vision was is really important. Like in Fly on the Wall (song), Party in the U.S.A., or Start All Over. But I really cannot find any of that. Or maybe the director talking about the video. As for YAFYBH, god thats a lot to say, it still needs more background and critical reception. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 19:09, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing that since The Climb was really just a promotional video for HM:TM, no one spoke about it. They either talked about the song or the movie. We should add stuff about how it was used in the movie, though. And, yes, YAFYBH is basically the most annoying thing on Earth. Liqudluck✽talk 19:30, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But if you check other FAs like Cool (song), there isn't much there on video conception either. Liqudluck✽talk 19:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But it already says how the song was used in the film in the background section; it says enough without ruining the movie. I added the info to Background. Lol about YAFYBH, I'll help you. Are you searching metacritic or rotten tomatoes? -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 20:14, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, there's enough about the movie in the article. I searched metacritic. I have to go finish an essay for school, so I'll be on and off Wikipedia for the next few hours- hopefully more off, or I'll never get the essay done. Liqudluck✽talk 20:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm serching thorugh Rotten Tomatoes and found this - thats 1 and it also works for lyrics. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 00:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 00:53, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

3. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 01:03, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to be it. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 01:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I expanded the background section. It looks pretty good now. I haven't actually watched the movie, so if you can add more about how it is used in the film it's good to go. Liqudluck✽talk 07:01, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And, I'm going to see if I can find interviews with Boys Like Girls. Their new single, 2 is better than 1, features Swift, and it looks like they met while writing the song. Liqudluck✽talk 07:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to be good. Anything about the movie use if left to movie itself and the music video section. Good idea about Boys Like Girls. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 07:06, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meanwhile you find that, I'll do critical reception. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 07:08, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I found something, here it is. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 07:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's amazing! I'm about to add it to the article. Liqudluck✽talk 07:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, oops... I already added it, but feel free to add more and copy-edit my poor sentence skills. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 08:09, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I already nominated the article since we have the majority of the info. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 08:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it looks good! That's basically what I was going to do. Thanks for nominating the article. We just need sources for the lyrics. Liqudluck✽talk 08:17, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O.K. thanks... looking for sources but since the song was somehow forgotten from all of the critics in this planet I don't think it's really necessary. I mean the title already explains the total lyrical message. As for sampling Hilary Duff it's true, that's actually the first thing I thought when hearing the song for the first time. Just out of curiosity what's your favorite song on the soundtrack, mine is Butterfly Fly Away and The Climb. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 08:34, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can just source the MTV lyrics for "So Yesterday" and use the production notes for the message. Sampling isn't the right word, though; it means that a portion of the actual song, music and all, was taken and played during the song. I don't know if I have a favorite. YAFYWBH is really catchy- it's stuck in my head right now. I think Backwards is pretty funny. I definitely adore The Climb and Butterfly Fly Away is really sweet. I didn't like Crazier at first even though I usually like Taylor Swift, but the song grew on me while writing the article. What's your favorite Miley song overall? Liqudluck✽talk 08:50, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ooo, I've actually been thinking forever about this and cannot decide... I have favorites on each album but all time is hard. Maybe "See You Again" or "Party in the U.S.A." - stuff from the new album is very catchy. Good thinking about So Yesterday, you know as soon as I was doing the article that song got stuck in my head. What do you think about Hilary as an overall singer? She's not a very good singer, but has catchy songs - in my point of view. -- ipodnano05 * ^{leave@message} 18:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]