User talk:Louisdicenzo

Help me!

Please help me with...starting a biography page for a person who is living.

Louis DiCenzo Louisdicenzo (talk) 00:24, 18 July 2016 (UTC) Louisdicenzo (talk) 00:24, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

If there are numerous sources such as news, let me know and I can start giving you some help about starting one. SwisterTwister talk 00:40, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Help me!

Please help me with...there are about 10 footnotes in this person's bio.

Louisdicenzo (talk) 05:35, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

First of all, I'm watching this so there's no need to retag it as needing help; next, if you would list them all here (remember, no press releases, social media, interviews or trivial passing mentions). SwisterTwister talk 06:22, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Am I correct in responding like this...

1 Indian Iron Eyes Cody http://jhproject.org/2014/12/jhp-paddle-8-auction-features-iron-eyes-cody-by-ron-jaffe/ 2 How I Met Your Mother http://time.com/44702/how-i-met-your-mother-finale-review/ 3 How I Met Your Mother http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/how-nbc-finished-season-at-705751 4 How I Met Your Mother http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,20801302,00.html 5 Mad Men http://www.vulture.com/2013/06/mad-men-guide-to-being-a-father.html 6 Rules of Engagement http://becksmithhollywood.com/2011/10/wendi-mclendon-covey-talks-bridesmaids-2-prospects-rules-of- engagement/ 7 CSI Crime Scene Investigation http://www.csifiles.com/content/2012/04/csi-first-look-dune-gloom/ 8 NCSI http://www.tvgoodness.com/2011/12/13/tinas-2011-tv-goodness-all-stars-ncis-michael-weatherly/ 9 NCSI http://www.tvgoodness.com/2012/05/02/ncis-playing-with-fire/ 10 CBS http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/06/20/several-cbs-actors-to-receive-walk-of-fame-stars/

Also, will the Save Page button allow me to save my edits and come back another time and continue working on it?

Louisdicenzo (talk) 06:37, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes and yes. Also make sure this is not retagged as needing help like shown above before I responded, as I'm watching this and will reply again. SwisterTwister talk 06:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ron jaffe

The article Ron jaffe has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. shoy (reactions) 14:02, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Page Question

Last night I saw that the Ron Jaffe page was deleted because it had not sources noted. I posted the page again with the sources and now I am unable to find it. Can you tell me if it still exists and if so, where I can find it? Also, I would like to add two photos to the page. Am I able to do so within the next week?

Louisdicenzo (talk) 19:08, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Louisdicenzo (talk) 19:08, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

I have checked the editing history of this account, including its deleted edits, and it never posted the article again after it was deleted. Unless you did it when you were not logged into this account, you must have made some mistake such as not clicking "Save page" when you had posted it. However, I have restored the deleted article and moved it to Draft:Ron Jaffe, to give you a chance to make improvements, including adding sources. When you have done that, you can submit it for review by clicking the "Submit your draft for review" button, and a reviewer will either decide that it's suitable to be launched back as an article or else tell you why it is not suitable, to give you another chance to work on it.

My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make (which you will, because we all do) will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start. However, if you do decide to carry on working on this draft, rather than leaving it and doing other editing, I wish you success with it. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:01, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you JamesBWatson for reposting the page and your detailed feedback, which answered a lot of my questions. I very much appreciate it. I have submitted the article for review and look forward to the response.

Louisdicenzo (talk) 06:24, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Louisdicenzo (talk) 06:24, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Please see Help:Referencing_for_beginners#Manual_referencing and, then, afterwards please add all additional amounts of in-depth third-party news. Remember, no press releases, interviews, trivial passing mentions or social media. SwisterTwister talk 06:46, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

@SwisterTwister: This wasn't a question, he's just thanking JamesBWatson. Louisdicenzo, in the future please either directly mention the user you want to communicate with (using the {{u|Username}} template), or posting on their talkpage. Or request help from that user by using {{help|Username}}. You can use {{thank you}} to show your appreciation. —Hexafluoride ^{Ping me if you need help, or post on my talk} 07:00, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ron Jaffe (August 7)

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LaMona (talk) 19:28, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello! Louisdicenzo, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! LaMona (talk) 19:28, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Rejection of Ron Jaffe Page

Please help me with... The page was rejected because "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." I'm not sure what that means as the sources are Time, Hollywood Reporter, People, CBS. Can I get a little more information on why it was rejected? Thank you. Louisdicenzo (talk) 17:00, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Louisdicenzo (talk) 17:00, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

None of the sources actually mention Ron Jaffe. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 17:26, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Photo Credits

I'm having a little trouble understanding what is a reliable reference for as photographer's work. I was told that the photo credits do count as references, but are not particularly good references. The references I noted are from reputable magazines and websites. What specifically should I use? Thank you. Louisdicenzo (talk) 05:50, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Each of these links have photos and Ron Jaffe has a credit on each of the pages. Does it count as a reference for Wikipedia? If they are not, what should I use to show and reference his work?

Also, I am having some trouble with the link to reference number 6. If I can't find out why this link will not work I will delete that one, use only nine.

Thanks.

Louisdicenzo (talk) 23:36, 29 August 2016 (UTC) Louisdicenzo (talk) 23:36, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay, so the short answer to your question is "yes, they count as references." However, they are not particularly good references. References fall into one of three (very general) categories:

1. Unreliable sources: these are things like blogs, forums, Facebook, IMDb, etc, that are either user-generated or of questionable reliability. If some guy with an opinion writes something on the internet, it's generally not acceptable.
2. PRIMARY sources: these are sources that are directly connected to the subject. Often this is the subject's own website, but interviews also fall into this category. They are discouraged, mainly because it is the subject talking about themselves and they could be lying (so it's easier to just not use the information).
3. Independent reliable sources. These are articles from newspapers, magazines, and reputable websites. These references are what Wikipedia is built on - good sources of information and a place where someone can potentially learn more about a subject. There are two types of reliable source

1. Name drops/passing mentions: these are sources that do little more than mention the subject or give their name in a list (such as the Top 100 Widget Makers). Since they are reliable sources, they can be used to verify the facts on the page, but don't actually demonstrate notability.
2. In-depth sources: references that talk about the subject from a reliable source show that someone has "taken note" of the subject. If there is no in-depth coverage of a subject, they fail the Golden Rule and generally are not given a Wikipedia entry.

Your CBS sources are essentially a lot of name drops, but you have no good in-depth sources. You must get some for this draft to be even borderline acceptable.

In short - you need more references. It's better to have less information that is backed up by really good references than a huge page that is mostly fluff. In other words, if you can't find a source to corroborate a sentence on your draft, you should remove it. Not every source has to be a detailed description of Jaffe's life, but the majority should be. If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 01:49, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

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