User talk:Melisa Nur Temiz

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 01:46, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

March 2021

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Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 21:30, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Appalachian music, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 23:38, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Appalachian music

Regarding your question at Ian's Talk page:

It looks like you have a total of eight edits of different sizes at the Appalachian music article, most of which were reverted for good cause, mostly because they were unsourced, such as your first two edits on 22 March, here (about guitar origins) and here (about banjos). Those two were caught by an automated program called ClueBot, which reversed them. Wikipedia requires that all added material be Verifiable, and recommends the use of citations to reliable sources as the best way to achieve that. You probably had a training module about verifiability, references, and citing sources; it might be worth doing a refresher.

Another edit of yours the same day, namely this one added 1,901 bytes, and appears to have survived (but was auto-tagged deprecated (unreliable) source). You included five references in this edit, which is great, but unfortunately three of the five are to Wikipedia articles, and that is not a valid source, per WP:WINARS; please review the criteria for WP:Identifying reliable sources. This content remains in the article, but the three references you added that cite Wikipedia, as well as the content you added that was sourced by those three references, will need to be removed, or otherwise sourced by valid references.

On 23 March, you made this edit of 1,633b, where you added information about the Flying Fish label, and the White Top Folk Festival. This edit was reverted, and became the subject of a discussion between me and editor Sundayclose at this discussion. In my opinion, the Flying Fish content is something we call WP:UNDUE WEIGHT, which basically means it's out of proportion to the article topic (title), and the current size of the article; in other words, there's too much about it, given the small size of the article currently. If instead, you created a new section of the article called, "Music labels", or something similar, where you talk very generally about what music companies publish Appalachian music, that could be a welcome addition to the article, and in addition, you might be able to re-add your material about Flying Fish. I think the second portion of your edit, the part about White Top, can be readded, as long as you place it in the right section of the article.

Now a word about English language, grammar, and style: am I correct in assuming that English is a second language for you? If so, that's fine, and there's no reason you can't contribute to the article. I also want to assure you, that your additions to the article don't have to be in perfect English, as long as they are understandable. I for one, am able to understand your writing just fine; if there are grammar errors or questions of style, they can always be fixed up later by some other editor. If there are English mistakes in what you write here, that doesn't matter, and that is not a valid reason for someone else to revert what you write (unlike omitting sources, which *is* a valid reason to revert). That said, some editors have different tolerances, and if some other editor happens to revert you because of style or grammar, just go to the talk page of the article instead, and discuss with other editors to see what the problem is. See also WP:BRD.

There may be a possible solution to prevent future problems of being reverted for language reasons. I'm not sure whether your instructor Michael Vozniak would be agreeable to this idea, but perhaps you could be paired with a peer reviewer of native English competency, and the two of you could work serially in tandem, where in step one, you would make make your addition to the article, and then as soon as you're done and hit Publish on your edit, you text them or otherwise communicate that you're done with your edit, and then in step two, they can come in behind you and copyedit your changes for any incidental grammar or style issues, without changing the essence of your content, or referencing, so that the content remains essentially yours.

There are more reverted edits of yours at the article that we haven't talked about, but this probably gives you enough to chew on for the moment. You can also check out the responses to the discussion you initiated at Sundayclose's Talk page, which I joined later. As a result of that, Sundayclose appears to have recently restored a portion of one of your edits (not one we've discussed above). Adding User:Ian (Wiki Ed). Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much for this feedback Mathglot. This is really good feedback, and I agree with it. If you want me to review any of your drafts before you move them to mainspace, please leave me a note letting me know. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:47, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you soo much Mathglot and Ian and yes English is my second lenguage. I will work according your suggestions.Melisa Nur Temiz (talk) 22:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Your welcome, Melisa. Just so you know, when you wish to reply to Ian, you have to use his full username, which is User:Ian (Wiki Ed), otherwise he doesn't get notified. Mathglot (talk) 04:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)