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Your submission at Articles for creation: The Emigsville Band (September 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Qcne was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

We need to see in-line references, see WP:INCITE.

This may pass the WP:NMUSIC threshold, but we need to see significant coverage in independent secondary sources that discuss the band in detail.

Your language is also a little bit promotional, see WP:NPOV.

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Qcne (talk) 14:20, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: The Emigsville Band (November 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by WikiOriginal-9 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Not enough independent, significant listed.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 06:38, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chance of success will increase if this gets a lot shorter and if you identify on the Talk page which three or more refs meet the ref criteria. See also WP:NMUSIC. David notMD (talk) 15:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Over-referencing

Simple factual statements do not need 5-8 refs. Yes, Declined, but that is more an issue of quality of refs, not quantity. Also, town bands may not clear the bar of notability. For example, my town of 10,500 has a continuous history of bands dating back to 1870, but I doubt Wikipedia notable. A minor comment - tag your edits as minor only when actually minor (see WP:MINOR). Good luck. David notMD (talk) 09:59, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you David -- your comments have been very helpful as I work to clarify pieces of the article. I'm looking at the notability guidelines for musicians and ensembles: Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles

The Emigsville Band fits the guidelines for both 1 and 7:

1: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself."

7: "Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability."

The band has appeared regularly across 3 centuries in news articles from organizations across York County (and these local papers have their own respective Wikipedia pages) that highlight the band's longevity and history -- not just trivial announcements of "upcoming concerts." Further, the band is one of less than 10 community bands from the late 1800's that still exists in the county, making it one of the oldest in the United States. As a county with a population of 450K+, it merits notability based on the aforementioned criteria.

I sincerely appreciate your guidance and will continue to refine the article for revision. Michaelkirk7 (talk) 13:40, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Emigsville Band has been accepted

The Emigsville Band, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a great rating for a new article, and places it among the top 21% of accepted submissions — kudos to you! You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Atlantic306 (talk) 22:56, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Minor means minor

See WP:MINOR for when to tag edits as minor. David notMD (talk) 02:31, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Unforgettable Big Band (February 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Justlettersandnumbers were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Apparently of local interest only – local press reports, local 'award' etc. I play in a couple of these myself, but they aren't even remotely notable by Wikipedia standards. All unsourced content can simply be removed.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Unforgettable Big Band

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 19:05, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Unforgettable Big Band

Hello, Michaelkirk7. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Unforgettable Big Band".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]