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Wikidata weekly summary #530

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  • Events
    • Upcoming:
      • The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, July 27th 2022 at 17:00 UTC (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
      • [Small wiki toolkits] [Upcoming bots & scripts workshop. "How to maintain bots" is coming up on Friday, July 29th, 16:00 UTC
      • Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call July 26, 2022: Clair Kronk, Crystal Clements, and Alex Jung will be providing an update to Wikidata/gender discussions from the February 8 call with a focus on pronouns. Clair will introduce us to LGBTdb, a Wikibase instance created for and by LGBTQIA+ people from which we draw insight in Wikidata-related discussions. We also hope to discuss current pain points and share action items for future collaboration. Input from community members who are familiar with lexicographical data would be greatly appreciated. Agenda
      • Wikimedia Indonesia Wikidata meetup. 1300 WIB, July 30, 2022.
    • Ongoing:
      • Weekly Lexemes Challenge #51, Plants
  • Tool of the week
    • User:Magnus Manske/referee.js - is a userscript that automatically checks external IDs and URLs of a Wikidata item as potential references, and adds them with a single click.
  • Development
    • Lexicographical data: We went over all the feedback we received for teh testing of the new Special:NewLexeme page and started addressing it and fixing the uncovered issues. One issue already fixed is a bug that prevented it from working on mobile view. (phab:T313116)
    • Mismatch Finder: investigated how we can make it work for mismatches in qualifiers instead of the main statement (phab:T313467)
    • REST API: Continued working on making it possible to replace and remove a statement of an Item
    • We enabled the profile parameter to the wbsearchentities API on Test Wikidata (phab:T307869)
    • We continued making Wikibase resolve redirects when showing Item labels and descriptions in more places (phab:T312223)

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Sagephora subcarinata

Heads up. I tagged it for an RD1 request, but I think it may be public domain since it was published in New Zealand. However, I don't want to trigger any filters. I apologize for any disruption. Scorpions13256 (talk) 04:25, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Scorpions13256 (talk) 20:13, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Rationale behind these revdels

Hi Nthep, thank you for answering so many revdels! I just wanted to get your thought rationale behind these two requests of mine (Abba Estifanos and Litani River Dam), as I see them as pretty similar cases. Why was Abba Estifanos declined while Litani was accepted? Sennecaster (Chat) 00:46, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

@Sennecaster there's a variety of things (a non exhaustive list) that I consider:
  1. how far back does the copyright go?
  2. what proportion of the article is a copyvio?
  3. how many other editors have edited the article in the interim?
  4. how significant are those other editors contributions to the article?
  5. how blatant was the original copy violent?
If, for example, a copyvio has gone unnoticed for several years but the only edits since then have been gnomeish things like typos, categories, small additions, then I'd probably revdel the lot. If it was a more recent copyvio but there have been considerable and substantial changes to the article text by other editors, I might decline the revdel under the large scale use clause of WP:REVDEL.
I try to be reasonably consistent but probably don't manage to be so. Nthep (talk) 07:16, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Alright, thanks! I figured it was probably admin discretion/inconsistencies, but just wanted to make sure :) Happy revdeleting,Sennecaster (Chat) 18:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your significant contributions over the years.. Keep it up! Volten001 ☎ 07:38, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - August 2022

The WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter
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11:46, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #531

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Books & Bytes – Issue 51

The Wikipedia Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 51, May – June 2022

  • New library partners
    • SAGE Journals
    • Elsevier ScienceDirect
    • University of Chicago Press
    • Information Processing Society of Japan
  • Feedback requested on this newsletter
  • 1Lib1Ref May 2022

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A barnstar for you!

The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
Thanks for tirelessly working through revdel requests and keeping articles clear of copyvios! Your work is greatly appreciated. Complex/Rational 21:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
@ComplexRational Thanks, but I think the harder part is yours and the others who identify the copyvios and there sources. Nthep (talk) 22:04, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Indeed, it is a challenging and thankless line of work, though someone needs to do the tedious job of taking out the trash... Complex/Rational 22:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

Administrator changes

readded Valereee
removed Anthony Appleyard (deceased) • Capitalistroadster • Samsara

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
  • An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

Technical news

  • The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
  • Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous

  • You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
  • Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
  • Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Regarding Harry Potter and 9/11

Can I get a more detaled reason why my artcle was rejencted? 70.56.147.118 (talk) 20:21, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a repository of reddit discussions speculating on obscure and hypothetical topics. If the topic is truly notable then you could provide multiple, reliable sources about the topic, not a single reddit drama board. Nthep (talk) 20:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
I have more Reddit posts and a Fandom W*nk link if you want 70.56.147.118 (talk) 20:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
No, it needs reliable sources - please read the links I gave above, not just fan speculation, theorising and discussion. Nthep (talk) 20:43, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
And any such edits would fall under a discretionary sanctions regime regardless of how well-sourced they were. But we do not allow original synthesis or crackpot theories, especially so where discretionary sanctions are involved. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:00, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Nthep, I am very, very sorry this got as out-of-hand as it did. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:48, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
u guys do realize harry pooter is not real and thus it doesnt even fall under crack heads or discriminatory standarts? 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:10, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
"Harry Potter and 9/11" falls under the sanctions for the September 11 conspiracy theories topic area, no matter how you slice it since you're interpreting the series, based on fan wonkery, to have some connexion to the Septermber 11 attacks nevermind that half of the books predate 2011/09/11. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
No Im not saying that the AL queda dudes read harry potter and said HELL YEAH LETS FLY A PLANE INTO SOME TOWERS im saying theres a lot of people who think harry potter could have stopped 9/11 and theres a big enough drama post that it could be relevent for wiki pedia.!!!!70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
question 2 how many reddit posts does ta topic have to have to be notable because like some citations here ar ereddit 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:26, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Reddit is completely worthless as a cite due to it having zero editorial oversight. See WP:Reliable sources. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Reddit is where the drama is happening 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:30, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
And? It's still a completely garbage source. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:31, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
can i make it a subpage of 9.11 which isnt indexed as highly > > 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
or can i write and joannes page about how she wont answer about 9.11 and the holo caust 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:32, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
No. Start reading these links; I'm getting tired of you flat out ignoring them because you have an agenda. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
im sorry what is my agenda i wanitt joenne to answer on 9 11 and a wiki pefdia articlle is a percect way to do 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:35, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
trying to contact her 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:35, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
I invite you to reread what you just wrote. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:36, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
agena is a politcal term i am a centraist ie not a radical left or right im fine with joanne but come on she has to repon 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
"Agenda" is not strictly a political term, and you have admitted you have an agenda here by stating you're demanding a response from Rowling. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
aw man
dang it 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
hey can i make a user page based on it with my email and phone number
for jonet 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
You do so, and I will immediately contact someone to remove it. Drop the issue, now. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:42, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
i will drop it like harry potter would have dorped the 9/11 plane for it im done ill buy a domain myself 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:43, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
shes been silent on this issume for alsmost 21 years god dam it
or they i guess 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
And she is not obligated to answer you. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:43, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
also they all predate 2011 i never said 2011 i said 2001 which is when in the books they could have added a 9.11 thing but they didnt (jk rowling is they) jonanne should have added it for the article is gonna be about the controversy sorrunging JK not adding 9.11 and having harry pooter stop it 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:28, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
That is a typo, I meant 2001/09/11. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:29, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
A distinction with zero difference as far as the sanctions regime is concerned and as far as Wikipedia policy is concerned. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:27, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
how do I comply wit ha the sanctions and legally write a hary poter 9/11 artcle 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:30, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
You don't, because this sort of crap is the sort of thing the sanctions exist to kerb. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:32, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
its mnot orginal if the reddit guys did it first 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
It is, because no reliable sources are giving this the time of day. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:35, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
are you denying the extinest of the reddit thread 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:36, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Reddit is not a reliable source. This issue is closed and has been for years. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:37, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
id liek to formally re open it who do i eaml 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:38, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
I predict any reopened discussion would very quickly close as "Reddit is not a reliable source". —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
and also theres a fan fic out there called harry poter and the twin towers 70.56.147.118 (talk) 21:39, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
And Chewbacca lives on Endor. The fanfic has naught to do with this discussion at all. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Chinese Military Exercises Near Taiwan

You redacted (revdel'd) some material from this article about twelve hours ago. A request was filed at DRN to discuss the deletion, by an editor who says that Mr. Blinken's words are in the public domain. I closed the DRN request as outside the scope of DRN, because we are not a copyright forum. I would appreciate if you would review my closure and provide any additional information to the filing editor. I can't see what was deleted, but, from your edit summary, I am inferring that the editor who copied the material was copying an account of Mr. Blinken's statement that was published in a news medium, in which case the news medium has copyright on the reporting of his words. Please check whether I closed the matter correctly. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:06, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon I agree with your close. The material was copied from a news medium and there was no way of ascertaining if the news outlet were quoting Blinken accurately or summarising his speech. Nthep (talk) 10:22, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
(Hi Robert McClenon and Nthep, just so you know, the discussion seems to have moved to Talk:2022_Chinese_military_exercises_around_Taiwan#Restore_statement_by_US_Secretary_of_State_Antony_Blinken.) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 04:00, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #532

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  • Events
    • Upcoming
      • Wikimania 2022, August 11 to 14, online event. The Hackathon will take place August 12-14. On this page you can find a summary of sessions and community gatherings related to Wikidata and Wikibase.
      • Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call August 9, 2022: Pieter Vander Vennet on MapComplete, a thematic OpenStreetMap viewer and editor which uses species, language, and image data from Wikidata. Agenda.
      • The Wikimania Hackathon starts next Friday, August 16-22! There are still lots of spots in the schedule to add your Wikidata related sessions or project ideas (anyone can present a session)
    • Ongoing
      • Wikimedia Indonesia's Wikidata edit-a-thon (datathon) for the 77th anniversary of the Indnesian Independence Day started on 5th August and will be held until 12th August. Participants are instructed to edit items containing the statement country of origin (P495): Indonesia (Q252).
      • Toolhub is a catalog of 1500+ tools used every day in a wide variety of workflows across many Wiki projects. We are currently improving the search functionality and need your input – whether you are already familiar with Toolhub or not. Please take 5-10 minutes to leave feedback.
    • Ongoing
      • Weekly Lexemes Challenge #53, Sheep
    • Past
      • First online meet-up fully organized by volunteers of the Indonesian Wikidata Community has been held on 30th July where we edited items on Indonesian ethnic groups.
  • Tool of the week
    • Wiki tools - adds dozens of Wikipedia and Wikidata functions to your Google sheets.
  • Development
    • Lexicographical data:
      • Continuing to address feedback from the testing (e.g. phab:T312292, phab:T313113, phab:T313466)
      • We have pushed back replacing Special:NewLexeme with the new Special:NewLexemeAlpha a bit to address more of the testing feedback.
    • Continuing to tackle allowing sitelinks to redirects under some circumstances (phab:T278962)
    • REST API:
      • Finishing up the endpoints for removing and replacing statements and adding authentication and authorization to them
      • Looking into feedback from first testing

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Championship Rugby Table

what's the difference between having 0|0 next to the results on the championship results page?... i'm confused (lol)... on the super league results page, it doesn't have it. i don't really understand what it means...

regards - L1amw90 01:51, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


The template {{0}} allows you to keep the scores in alignment with each other by inserting invisible characters so you can balance the number of characters each side of the dash i.e. the dash is always in the centre.

demonstration of using template to pad
without {{0}} with {{0}}
6–4 6–4 padding not needed, equal number of characters each side of the dash
12–6 12-60 one character needed on right to pad out
12-22 12–22 padding not needed, equal number of characters each side of the dash
4–48 04–48 one character needed on left to pad out
100–4 100–400 two characters needed on right to pad out

Nthep (talk) 07:05, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@L1amw90 ps. Table captions are not optional, see MOS:TABLECAPTION. Nthep (talk) 07:13, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Library of Congress query

Hi Nthep, just a quick query as I would like to be clear myself regarding content from LOC, especially as you took a view regarding a recent revdel request from their site. I was (mistakenly, perhaps?) of the view that it isn't necessarily the case that all content on LOC is PD, and their copyright page seems to support that as a general idea (admittedly it generally refers to items, rather than prose, but implies that not all content published there is PD). Please can you kindly confirm for me why the prose content on the page https://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/matpc/background.html would be classed as PD (as I observe from the bottom that the content is attributed to individuals)? It would help me to understand better if I encounter any future copy-pastes from pages within the LOC. Many thanks. Bungle (talk • contribs) 16:46, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

@Bungle The text at https://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/matpc/background.html is credited to "Verna Curtis, Curator of Photography, and Arden Alexander, Cataloger". From the titles it implies they were at the time employees of the LoC and as such their work is PD as the text is "a work prepared by an officer or employee of the United States Government as part of that person's official duties." Nthep (talk) 17:07, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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