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Four Continents Speed Skating Championships

What sources are we actually missing here ? Best regards Migrant (talk – contribs) 19:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Migrant, citations to sources outside the ISU, which are necessary to establish notability. The most likely example to find would be newspaper coverage of the event, although books or peer-reviewed articles about the sport could theoretically include coverage as well. signed, Rosguill talk 13:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Here are the medalvinner-list for all editions so far at isu.org
And here are some sources from the single events:
And here are some news-articles from Speedskating.ca/Speed Skating Canada: Search Results: "Four continents" - 36 Results Found
Would this be enough ? Best regards Migrant (talk – contribs) 19:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
No, these are databases and primary sources, which aren't the kind of sources that our notability guidelines specify. What we need is WP:SECONDARY text articles, published by outlets unaffiliated with ISU, ideally with several paragraphs of text describing in detail the Four Continents Championship and analyzing it. E.g., [1] provides such coverage of the 2023 World Athletics Championships – Men's 800 metres signed, Rosguill talk 20:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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Noahide redirect deletion

Hi, thanks for stepping in on the Noahide redirect. I don't understand what is meant by "it is a known scam that paid editors will claim affiliation with editors in a deletion discussion and extort money to "prevent the deletion" (which is not something within their power to do)." I have not received any emails from anyone. I suppose the other user who was pushing the Noahide thing as "Anabaptist" felt hurt when his edits were rejected. It seems there is a little group of "Noahide" people, relatively new (last decade or so?), who feel that they belong within the Anabaptist umbrella. That's okay if they feel that way, but until they become large enough to make at minimum a tiny ripple in a movement that includes literally a couple of million people, I have a hard time giving them much room for articles relating to Anabaptism. Mikeatnip (talk) 00:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

My reading was that the other editor in the discussion was targeted by the scammers, who decided to claim to be you, hence the ping. signed, Rosguill talk 00:37, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, if Wikipedia admins want to verify whether it was me, they can contact me privately and ask me whatever they want. I suppose for the recipient of the scams, it may add insult to injury if he feels that I tried to extort him, beyond just get the deletion. Sad world we live in, when people try to stir up trouble just for a few dollars. Mikeatnip (talk) 01:04, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Special:Diff/1217442386

Hello, what exactly was the reason to suppress the redirect here? 1234qwer1234qwer4 11:58, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

1234qwer1234qwer4, it seemed to be unnecessary, did I miss something useful about it? signed, Rosguill talk 14:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
I just figured because it was linked from the discussion it would have done no harm. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:13, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

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Maphumor

User talk:Maphumor was reported to ANI “ @Maphumor has been culprit for removing various important things from the page and his past edits has also been criticized of the same. Also many new things have been removed in this page. Please revert the changes made by @maphumor and restore the page. Rkvaishnavp (talk) 7:55 am, Today (UTC+1)” I don’t know them but as you alerted them for the ipa area you may. Their talk page is discouraging. Doug Weller talk 12:04, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Doug Weller I don't recall what prompted me to place that notification originally. It does look like the removal of the BJP candidate from the page is unjustified, and other editors have complained on the talk page already. I'm disinclined to respond to the AN post because of the various issues with the filing (wrong board, no notification, new account/likely sock) so I've just dropped in on the article talk page and pinged Maphumor to explain their edits. signed, Rosguill talk 13:17, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for this. Timewasting nuisances are driving me nuts right now. Doug Weller talk 13:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Doug Weller, Maphumor continued to ignore requests to justify their edits at the Tamil Nadu election page while also avoiding further edits to that page, so I stepped in and reverted the contested edit. This nominally makes me ~~involved~~, since policy is hazy on how involvement relates to edits made on behalf of editors who are below the level of protection needed to edit a page who have made semi-formal requests, but I expect that if Maphumor attempts to edit war on that page it will clearly be the time for a block. signed, Rosguill talk 13:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. I'll try to keep on top of this. Doug Weller talk 13:46, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Needs cleanup

@Rosguill, please look at Ahir clans, Gwalavanshi and Dhadhor. Please remove unreliable raj era sourced information. 2409:4085:8D10:961F:0:0:8889:DB13 (talk) 21:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diplomacy
you unbanned my account like a while ago but thanks for being the only one that listened to me :) 
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Cookiemonster1618

Hello Rosguill, User:Cookiemonster1618 continues to make similar personal attacks that led to a topic ban a few months ago despite previous warning. see his latest [2] previous warnings [3] [4] and ANI discussion [5] Magherbin (talk) 18:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

I havent made any attacks I called you up to a discussion on Harari people but you never addressed my arguments. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 19:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
How have I made personal attacks against you? I explained in the talk page for Harari people on why I reverted your edits and did not use any personal attacks in the discussion in fact I was calm and explained why I reverted your edit with reasoning. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 19:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Can you explain how I made personal attacks against you? At the talk page my language in the discussion box didn't include any personal attacks? Talk:Harari people Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 19:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
So trying to removing the disambiguation link of the Habesha peoples page on the main Harari people page is not very honest of you could be construed as a mild personal attack; the edit doesn't need to be personalized as "not very honest of you" and could instead be referred to as "misleading" or "incorrect" without assigning blame. That having been said, I don't think this rises to the level of infraction that would motivate me to impose a sanction on the basis of a report at my talk page, unless it can be demonstrated that this is a consistent pattern despite prior warnings. The prior ANI discussion seems to mostly deal with questions of sourcing, not civility, and doesn't seem to establish a precedent of prior warning. signed, Rosguill talk 19:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank You @Rosguill if that was a personal attack against @Magherbin than I take responsibility for that. That was not my intention though, my intention was to have a discussion with him/her on why they kept removing the Habesha peoples disambiguation link. This problem never occurred before because the Argobba people and Siltʼe people pages also had that disambiguation link. My intention was simply to argue on why the disambiguation link to that page should not be removed. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 19:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Btw there have been no warnings on my page from that user or any users regarding my recent edits after February 2024. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 19:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
That discussion was closed because I was blocked for 2 months also in the discussion I still don't see any personal attacks that were used against you by me. I simply explained in a civil discussion on the talk page why I reverted your edit. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 19:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

WP:AN/I

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Service Corps of Retired Executives

Hello Rosguill, I would like to invite you to contribute to the discussion on Draft talk:Service Corps of Retired Executives Your learned input would be greatly appreciated. BuffaloBob (talk) 22:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

AXN Movies (Portugal)

Hi @Rosguill I saw you added notability tag to the page AXN Movies (Portugal), saying that that page "needs sources other than AXN and PR"- I would like to ask: What does PR mean? I am a Wikipedia user for only two months, what can I do for keep that page intact? Filippo.g204 (talk) Filippo.g204 (talk) 09:59, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Filippo.g204, PR refers to public relations and/or press release; in particular I think I was thinking about this source, which has a collective byline in addition to lacking any substantive analysis of the subject beyond basic description. These sorts of sources are essentially just promotional text written by the subject and are not reliable. signed, Rosguill talk 12:47, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Logoic plane deletion

Hi, I'm wondering why Logoic plane was deleted. Jay 💬 05:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Jay, I read the discussion as nom in favor of deletion, 1 clear !vote for deletion, and took your comment as no objection to deletion, as a circular redirect in a collapsed navigation template is typically a poor justification for a redirect. If I misinterpreted your comment and you feel strongly about the discussion I can restore and relist. signed, Rosguill talk 12:43, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. No strong feelings about this. I was only countering the nomination statement regarding no mention at target. Jay 💬 15:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

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Hey Rosguill, could you reopen and/or reclose Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 8#-) possibly? (I meant to respond to Jeske there.) There was really no reason for -/ and -\ to target different targets, and Emoticon counter to the other consensuses to point these generally at the list of emoticons, I have no idea why this would be different. The !keep votes seem to be more in line with "don't delete" and not people actually supporting the status quo. Let me know your thoughts on this, cheers, Utopes (talk / cont) 07:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

In hindsight I don't really care too much, the biggest thing I was hoping for was "consensus that one article is preferable" and that didn't come about, which I feel is a pretty agreeable stance and it'd be nice to have that reflected officially, perhaps. (I know it was relisted twice with no other comments, but if reopened I'd at least like to alert Jeske to the difference in targets and see whether they'd hold their stance after the fact). Utopes (talk / cont) 07:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
@Utopes: I read this a few times and could not understand. Perhaps it is the .. and Emoticon counter ... that is throwing me off. What is the concern with the close? Did you prefer targeting both to Emoticon? Jay 💬 08:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
The outcome of "emoticon status quo" runs counter to the other similar closes that retargeted to the general list. As a disclaimer, I don't personally have a preference one way or another between the two targets, but I was surprised to see some emoticons go one way and others go another with little rationale.
I was hoping to use the basis of these results as a precedent for retargeting a major list of redirects from emoticons. At the time I wasn't completely sure whether certain types of emoticons have a stronger affinity towards aiming at Emoticon vs aiming at List of emoticons, which is why I was hoping to figure that out through these discussions (i.e., maybe east-asian style have better coverage at page A, whereas smileys are more preferable at page B, was my original thought when I saw the discrepancies in targets.) A lot ended up closing towards List of emoticons, but the split outcome was not the most satisfactory ending for the situation. Utopes (talk / cont) 08:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Ignore my comment. I was looking at the wrong RfD - WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 8#'). I agree that the RfD you mentioned can be relisted unless Rosguill has discounted Lunamann's revote from Keep to Retarget. Jay 💬 08:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Utopes, you have my permission to reopen the discussion--I would do it myself but I'm hurrying out the door and expect to be very busy the next few days. signed, Rosguill talk 13:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Youknowwhoistheman

Hi Rosguill. Could you please review this request a bit thoroughly? They appear to be a professional spammer - here they spammed an independently published book. I think they are not honest and would likely abuse the tools. 89.204.223.237 (talk) 12:26, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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Enforcement of community ANI-based ban at ITN

Hello, I'm coming back into Wikpiedia after a long break to cool down from life in general and Wikipedia to a degree. As I was on my way out of the door I gained an indefinite ban at ITN, enforced by you per the logs. So as a reminder to me, what is required for me to appeal against this, is it simply a thread at ANI or some other request? Thanks in advance. The Rambling Man (Been a while, I know......) 22:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, community bans should be appealed at WP:AN by opening a thread. I'd maybe recommend taking a few months of on-wiki editing before rushing to appeal though, I would expect that to greatly increase chances of succeeding. signed, Rosguill talk 03:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes of course. Thanks for your response. The Rambling Man (Been a while, I know......) 11:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

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Question

Hi Rosguill, hope you're doing well. I was thinking about make a section about this topic [6]. Where do you think it will be most appropriate, WP:AN or WP:ANI? I feel like the latter doesn't pay much attention to these kind of issues, but I'm not sure. HistoryofIran (talk) 18:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

HistoryofIran Presuming that your intent is to investigate the other suspected sockpuppets/collaborators, I think ANI is most appropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 19:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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