User talk:STI500
This page is created with Dr. Edy Cohen. Dr. Edy Cohen is a research fellow at the center of international media at Bar-Ilan University.
Dr. Edy Cohen lives in Israel, was born in Lebanon and speaks fluent Arabic. He has done extensive research of Mahmoud Abbas' (also called "Abu Mazen") book, which is currently being translated from Arabic to Hebrew.
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[edit]Okay, Im on your talk page. Who is the "we" and "our" that you wrote of? nableezy - 00:31, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
I am an Israeli-Canadian woman. I have previous experience in editing/creating Wikipedia pages. (Mostly biblical/ ME subjects)
Professor Edy Cohen and I would like to improve this page, based on his research. Would you like to see links to his articles? I do think that people have the right to know who are these mysterious “established editors” for this page, who chose them and what are their political objectives for shutting down the page to new or updated information.--STI500 (talk) 14:14, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- Nobody chose anybody, "established editors" is just short-hand for editors with 500 edits and 30 days tenure on Wikipedia. Anybody who meets those requirements may edit in the Arab-Israeli conflict topic area, people who have not met those thresholds however may not. As far as your answer, please see WP:NOSHARING. You may not use an account among multiple people. If Edy Cohen would like to edit Wikipedia he can create his own account. nableezy - 14:41, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
This is my account. I understand, so after 500 edits, they automatically speak Arabic and understand this book. That makes sense.--STI500 (talk) 18:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- No, but the hope of the Arbitration Committee is that by then they understand basic Wikipedia policies such as WP:OR. nableezy - 20:51, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
The 500/30 restriction was introduced in order to slow down the large number of single-interest activists who come to Wikipedia for the purpose of adjusting articles to match their own politics. It isn't a perfect solution but it's better than the endless chaos that was here before. I predict that there will not ever be a distinction between editors on the basis of their qualifications; it would violate the foundational principles of the Wikipedia. It is also clear that you don't understand the basic principles of writing here. Every statement of fact has to be cited and every opinion has to be attributed. You can't start a paragraph with a sentence like "It's worth dwelling a bit on the question of Abbas' motivation for creating the egregious equation between Zionism and the Nazis." Who says it is "worth dwelling a bit" and who says it is "egregious"? The answer is "Edy Cohen", which is not good enough (and it doesn't matter what myself or other editors believe either). After that the paragraph deteriorates further by presenting your own speculation on Abbas' motivation. Basically you didn't arrive at the article just to add facts but to instruct readers what to think about them. It isn't allowed. Zerotalk 04:39, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Its true, I could have done a better job. I just had to sort through an overwhelming amount of information and to fix this page which is very poorly written. I have created 2 pages before. What is interesting is that no original research is allowed on a book that contains "original research" and is filled with allegations and ideas for which no reliable published sources exist. His book does not even have a bibliography. So, his unreliable book which is used for psychological warfare, is presented as reliable, while an Israeli professor who read and studied the book is made to look as someone who is making false allegations for political gain. The book uses Nazi-propaganda. That is not an opinion, its main theory is a copy of Adolf Eichmann's theories. Unless of course Adolf Eichmann's theories are correct. I mean, maybe we should apologize for arresting him and recognize him as a brilliant author and then Abbas' book can be recognized as "unoriginal research", and we are just here making false claims. Who knows maybe I instructed the death of my own relatives in the Holocaust. --STI500 (talk) 05:59, 7 July 2016 (UTC)