User talk:Sca/Archive12b

What's your plan? Hafspajen (talk) 12:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Plan? Donno. So far I've just been looking for wintry paintings. Some knowledgeable person could write something about how artists have depicted snow and ice, their use of blue shadows on snow, darkness, etc. How to get the viewer to 'feel' cold.... Sca (talk) 13:41, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

..Wan't to get them cold?How do you like this one... File:The Fat Women by Igor Grabar, 1904.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 13:54, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh! Sca (talk) 14:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Naughty boy, if you put graveyards on my talk I will post uggly women on yours!

Hafspajen (talk) 14:26, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, what about those macabre skulls by Antonio de Pereda that you proposed for FPs? Sca (talk) 15:23, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be feeling apocalyptic since you returned. Sca (talk) 20:48, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But I thought you understod the whole thing - a long time ago. You are so smart and know all about symbols and stuff.

Yes!! thats him, the man with the bears!! Ivan Shishkin! Great winter things. Hafspajen (talk) 14:28, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Those Russkis and their bears! Sca (talk) 16:32, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, those lovely nice gossy musey bears... I had a book I loved when I was 7 - with those kind of bears. Don't have it any more .. pity. Hafspajen (talk) 17:06, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

George Henry Durrie, much the same temperament like yours... American winterlover. Hafspajen (talk) 17:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Durrie's style is a bit too Currier & Ives for my taste. Sca (talk) 21:32, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And do you like Homer then? Hafspajen (talk) 21:55, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fairly well. But I really like the moodiness of some of the Russkis. Sca (talk) 22:01, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then Russki it is. Hafspajen (talk) 07:56, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is a time for everything, a time for cry, a time for sorrows, a time for grieve and mourn. Later, the sun will maybe come. There is a time for everything. Not everybody can be happy-yappy-blappy always - there is grief and sadness and hurt in the world too. I feelt quite badly treated. People who never lost anything - don't know . I have lost thing - maybehappines, maybe fait- maybe something else. And where is that man who never lost anything? Those ar also human feelings. Hafspajen (talk) 20:59, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course, Haffy.

As the title of a German short story I read back in my student days put it, "Vielleicht scheint Morgen die Sonne wieder." Sca (talk) 22:12, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is darkness in the human soul too... best to face it sometimes. Think Goya - Hafspajen (talk) 22:43, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Don't I know it. (Two divorces, two job losses.) Yet ... perhaps a recent family photo will cheer you a bit. Sca (talk) 23:33, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ever so gorgious! Hafspajen (talk) 08:12, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

World Banknotes

Hi Sca- Aside from the Free City of Danzig, from which other places would you be interested in seeing banknotes? I will be back at the Smithsonian at some point before the end of the year and will look for specific notes if you have requests.--Godot13 (talk) 18:41, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Ready now? I think I remove the under referencing, and later confusion we may work out - later. Hafspajen (talk) 18:37, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me. There was a problem with the last two ref tags (under 'Honors'), which I fixed. Sca (talk) 20:55, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. We were trying to do that at the same time, but you made it.

Have you some reference for his painter students somewhere? Otherwise you can leave a message to User:Belle to start reviewing.

Oh, is that our Carol I can see in the garden?

Stolen from M. Hafspajen (talk) 21:49, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Moo-o-o-o-o.... Sca (talk) 23:53, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We have to be given the Fine Cow Award soon, for our special efforts in cow-depicting articles. Hafspajen (talk) 08:43, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gug. Hafspajen (talk) 14:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just swallowed hard. Hafspajen (talk) 14:54, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cow -boys Hafspajen (talk) 17:19, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm impressed — or at least I know I should be.

You'll be glad to know that sca is cooking up (or down) a batch of black bean & bacon chili made with fresh garden tomatoes from his very own back yard. Sca (talk) 17:45, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Moved Aivazovsky's Little Russia to winter gallery above. (Also made it my desktop background — for now.) Thanks. Sca (talk) 18:06, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ox Cart is already in the gallery. Sca (talk) 20:44, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Much honored. But some philosops like Pytagoras would be disappointed with you... He hated eating beans.Hafspajen (talk) 18:30, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They do pose some perils. Sca (talk) 20:42, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How's this for a chilly scene? Sca (talk) 20:53, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

.(edit conflict).So, go ahead and nominate it .Has an article and it is google. Hafspajen (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That one is lovely. We rarely have so much snow. Hafspajen (talk) 20:57, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Now, how's this and this for chili scenes? Sca (talk) 21:21, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Very chilly - but Pythagoras would have pulled out every hair from his beard by now. He had a sect that he founded, they were not allowed to jump over fences, pick up things that fall down or eat beans. Pythagoreanism. Now go and nominate that Magpie. You found that, you fix that. Your nouveau specialité Le winter. Hafspajen (talk) 21:40, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

He should have been a stoic and accepted the consequences, however malodorous. Sca (talk) 00:48, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, he had a certain mystical filosophy behind it. Hafspajen (talk) 11:51, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I hate magpies. We have quite a few of them here and they are always screeching and cackling in a most unpleasant way. Sca (talk) 23:21, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I hate magpies too. Do you hate the picture too? Hafspajen (talk) 23:34, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Er, no. Sca (talk) 00:42, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So? Hafspajen (talk) 11:55, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how switching to a different version of the same painting is a significant contribution, at least not in this case. Sca (talk) 13:53, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

?? switching to a different version of the same painting ? Hafspajen (talk) 13:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Assumed you were talking about various versions of Magpie. Sca (talk) 14:03, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, no, wasn't. If you don't want to nominate it of course, don't. But we don't have many winter paintings. You are in the Winter bussines - nowadays, you found this pic. It has an article, it is a good pic, even if it contains a ferrocious magoie. So? Hafspajen (talk) 14:08, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

guy

This guy doesn't even have an article.. [1]Hafspajen (talk) 16:08, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Schade... Sca (talk) 21:08, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We have a glorious gallery, how about the text?Hafspajen (talk) 13:40, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Domiciles

Various

Great stuff... looks good. but where is Hans Busse? Hafspajen (talk) 16:02, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You mean really lost or it is just an American proverb? Love Fritz von Uhde. Hafspajen (talk) 16:35, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I could only find two of Busse's works on Commons — this Cameroon elephants is the other. He doesn't have an article on Ger. Wiki, either.

Thought Uhde would strike a chord w/you. I considered his Winter Landscape but the halo is just too much for me. Sca (talk) 17:16, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you thought that. Hafspajen (talk) 17:44, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Style — and perhaps some of the religious themes. Sca (talk) 17:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nooo, don't say so. Hafspajen (talk) 18:39, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're being mysterious. Sca (talk) 20:51, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

? You too.. Hafspajen (talk) 20:57, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it's better left that way ... religion as a topic can be very problematic. Sca (talk) 21:12, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have problem with it? Hafspajen (talk) 21:14, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Problematic originally meant uncertain or unpredictable. Only in recent decades has it come to mean fraught with problems. Sca (talk) 23:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it is like sex. It can make people to do the noblest things and it can make people to do the lowest too. And - also like sex - it is very private - and only you can decide what you like and what it means. Hafspajen (talk) 12:39, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Einverstanden. Sca (talk) 13:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where did Vincent got a trabant to paint from?? Hafspajen (talk) 21:01, 27 September 2014 (UTC) http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/photos/avalanche-winter-general/#/environment-winter05-winter-horse_27796_600x450.jpg[reply]

What Trabant? That's not a painting... Sca (talk) 21:23, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Saw you managed to find one... Hafspajen (talk) 14:12, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Zimezum zimezum some text rattatatabombombom

[This you are going to like] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]

Of course Hunters in the Snow is the quintessential winter painting. I've loved it since I first saw it reproduced in, I think, Life magazine when I was a teen. I hung a repro in one of my first apartments (& still have it). But I didn't want to go back that far style-wise in my gallery — it wouldn't fit with all the mostly 19th C. paintings there, which tend to be ... impressionist or symbolist? Sca (talk) 21:17, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Those English scenes from K Melling strike me as rather too fussy. Sca (talk) 21:20, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fussy mussy fussy , jussu musussy drusski - well, try find more. Hafspajen (talk) 21:21, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Druskininkai!

39 isn't enough? Sca (talk) 21:25, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

39 what? 39 beers is enough, dollars - not - 39 years of bachelorship - too much - well, depends on what you meanHafspajen (talk) 21:44, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

39 pix in the Winter gallery.

Funny you should mention beer — I was outta beer, just came back from store.

Reminds me of a line by Onslow in Keeping Up Appearances:

"Fine! Here I am surrounded on all sides by NO BEER!" Sca (talk) 22:39, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Would you care to explain why you Swedes call it öl? That's what it says on the oil filler cap of my VW. Sca (talk) 22:54, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can't. Sounds kinda stupid, no? Hafspajen (talk) 22:58, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No worse than pivo piwo пиво, cervesa and alus. Sca (talk) 00:09, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at least start the draft and copy ower the gallery... Hafspajen (talk) 15:08, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This user grew up with cold weather, but he can't take it like he used to...

Cute. Hafspajen (talk) 14:11, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So, it was the paintings you meant. Well I meants sources. You can soon start the draft User talk:Sca/Winter paintingsThere are several good sources to start with. Hafspajen (talk) 14:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To reiterate: I'm simply not knowledgeable enough about art techniques or history. Sca (talk) 14:59, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(But, if you would like to take a stab at writing something, I'd be glad to edit into correct English. Maybe you could even write it in Swedish & computer-translate it?) Sca (talk) 15:08, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ugugugu... PLease ... what - drafts float around everywhere. What we need to do to start something, slowly trace down each picture, throw in info into draf and reword ... That's you. Start it. Hafspajen (talk) 15:48, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK. You like liptauer? Hafspajen (talk) 16:32, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keine Idee. I'd like to try real Tilsiter sometime. Sca (talk) 17:31, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Changed Woman. Hafspajen (talk) 22:41, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Scandaleux! Sca (talk) 23:09, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mais oui, oui, Jukkasjervi Icehotel!! (Changed Woman) Hafspajen (talk) 14:22, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where the heck did she go? Hafspajen (talk) 14:24, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Off to the баня. Sca (talk)

AHA!! Hafspajen (talk) 14:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The old sauna... Hafspajen (talk) 14:35, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Parle vous le Francais? — Moi? Non, et tu?

Eh, oui, French, Spanish, Danish, Norwegian, Italian, Esperanto, some Hungarian, Latin, (some English?) a little Dutch and German too. ... Hafspajen (talk) 15:16, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My experience is, if you know English and you have to speak a little French, you can. Everyone knows a few words. I still remember some from my time in la Suisse decades ago. Also remember een paar worden of Dutch, and snippets of Polish, Lithuanian & Russian. Never was in Sweden, DK or Norway, though. (Danish seems to have some cognates with German — ??)

Dutch is a funny language, what with all those throaty, gargling sounds — you've heard Van Gogh pronounced in Dutch — and sorta mumbling action with the lips. But nice people. Sca (talk) 15:52, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, just trying to impress you. Quite so. I understand Dutch fairly well, until they write. When they start talking - well, that's where the problem begin... Hafspajen (talk) 15:56, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You want Russian Venus woman back? So, you got her back... And my plan of entertaining you with a new woman every day is going down the drain. Or shall I start an extra?

Looks like somebody had a little chat with Christ, got healed and threw away his crutches. Hafspajen (talk) 08:02, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is how Norway looks most of the time

Suddenly I can speak Norsk! — "Fresh breeze on the Norwegian coast."

Is "fresh fish" frisk fisk? Sca (talk) 13:55, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh YES! I have to add that if you make a translation using the Swedish meaning of the words it will give you: fresh breeze on the Norwegian kissed. Hafspajen (talk) 14:01, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Figgers.

Evocative painting. Brings to mind the first part of a beautifully written short novel by O.E. Rolvaag called The Boat of Longing (Længselens Baat). (He was one of the many Norwegian immigrants to Minn.) Sca (talk) 14:09, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, well, he and his wife were really inloved - at least - I think they were. Hafspajen (talk) 15:10, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Goodbye Vladimir

Good riddance to bad rubbish, as we say. Sca (talk) 16:10, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! Hafspajen (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Now if they could just get Baldy outta Red Square, & out of their heads.... Sca (talk) 16:17, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I thanked you twice, did you noticed anything. Hafspajen (talk) 15:51, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, tnx. Sca (talk)

what is tnx. Hafspajen (talk) 16:53, 1 October 2014 (UTC) "Thanks."[reply]

THIS got removed, as nonsense. In Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Russia sauna-going plays a central social role. These countries boast the hottest saunas and the tradition of massaging fellow sauna-goers with leafy, wet birch bunches ('vasta' or 'vihta' in Finnish, 'viht' in Estonian, 'slota' in Latvian, 'vanta' in Lithuanian, 'веник' (venik) in Russian). The fast movements of the massage have created a common misconception that it is somewhat of a beating, however, the correct method of giving this kind of massage is to curb the hot air without actually touching the skin.

Maybe we should post the Russian Venus there? Hafspajen (talk) 17:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, User:Altenmann also edited Banya (sauna), which includes Russian Venus pic plus description of веники use, but when I looked he hadn't removed the latter.

I'm not an expert on sauna practices, so I don't feel like opposing his editing of sauna, and I can't see how adding Russian Venus there would accomplish much.

Do you know a user from one of the other countries mentioned in sauna who'd like to challenge him?

PS: Once in a sauna at a Warsaw hotel a lovely British fem popped in au naturel, sat down next to me & started chatting.

Sca (talk) 17:21, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely memories... Hafspajen (talk) 17:29, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the dirty, dark Warsaw winter, I used to love going to the Hotel Bristol sauna, sweating, swimming in the pool & on way home stopping at a so-called 'Irish' pub for a Guinness. Sca (talk) 17:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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As soon as we find some ref put it back... Hafspajen (talk) 17:24, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen the a "stand-up bar for dogs", c

Hafspajen (talk) 19:04, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

??? Sca (talk) 23:27, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Koller's "stand-up bar for dogs". Hafspajen (talk) 23:33, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I don't see a genuine relevance to the story of Rudolf Koller, artist. Sca (talk) 23:38, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, he liked animals. Dogs have trouble finding water in the cities ... they don't have fickpengar to go and buy a Cola or a cofee. So, it is animal drinkwater there - I think it is a fine gestutre. Thoughtful. Hafspajen (talk) 21:09, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No doubt old Rudi was a Tierfreund, but this apparently was done by a commercial entity (a hotel) 100 years after his death, so to my way of thinking it didn't have much to do with Koller the person.

(BTW, I had an uncle named Rudolf, who was known in the family as "Rude.") Sca (talk) 23:54, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That was Rude... Hafspajen (talk) 14:23, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The other one of my Dad's brothers was named Anfin, supposedly an old Norwegian name. No one could figure that one out, so he was known as "Andy." Sca (talk) 15:13, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You should translate the oak, is great! Hafspajen (talk) 00:38, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you think that it is too much of a bother with refs, I promise not to nominate it ... (even if I am sure it would be a great succes). Hafspajen (talk) 14:22, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No article on this... [8]Hafspajen (talk) 20:00, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you play? Hafspajen (talk) 20:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ja. Sca (talk) 22:07, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fin could mean nice. Hafspajen (talk) 22:26, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See this. Sca (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, [9] see Anfinn. Finn. My name is Finn!! Hafspajen (talk) 14:36, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Saw it.

Actually, Dad had another brother, the oldest (probably born in late 1890s), who died as a result of WWI. He was a soldier in the trenches on the Western Front. Can't remember if he got TB or the flu from the great 1918 flu pandemic. His name was Conrad, or Konrad. Of course we never knew him, but I have his U.S. Army ammunition belt from WWI. They also had a sister, Valberg. Donno if that was a common Norwegian girl's name. I've never heard of anyone else named Valberg. We (my sisters and I) never knew her, either. Sca (talk) 17:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Valborg is a common Scandinavian girl's name. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valborg_(namn) Hafspajen (talk) 18:49, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, yeah, it probably was Valborg. Sca (talk) 23:19, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, Valborg. Very nice name, I think. Hafspajen (talk) 23:40, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Auguste Raffet - Two French Hussars on Patrol in Winter - WGA18960.jpg ... Hafspajen (talk) 10:07, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Rudolf Koller

On 8 October 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rudolf Koller, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Rudolf Koller painted "the Swiss national animal" running in the road in front of traffic (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rudolf Koller. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Great!! Hafspajen (talk) 14:55, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, looks like it is over 5000 hits... Hafspajen (talk) 10:41, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilove!

	For your excellent contribution on German Artists
	You Won Ten days in Jail with Gloria Swanson Hafspajen (talk) 15:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How glorious. Sca (talk) 15:40, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cuisine

Norwegian cuisine
Some shrimp to go with it, hope you like shrimps...
Sorgasbord
Where's the øl?
As long as it's not gamalost!
Where's the dog?

OK, are you or are you not creating that Winter in paintings draft? I need someting I can work in - and I am not going to start an other one - I have plenty of my own unfinished ones. Hafspajen (talk) 13:13, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Olala.- one cant write in the air. Hafspajen (talk) 14:35, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Love cheese!! What Wikilove ... dog... ? Lookslike a cow to me... Hafspajen (talk) 13:45, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bing translates lompe as "dog." Doh! Sca (talk) 13:51, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

AWW, you joker. Hafspajen (talk) 13:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Did you tried any of these above? And how is your garage door doing nowadays?

I'm a longtime fan of lefse.

You'll be glad to know that I managed to cobble together a ... solution? ... to the g.d. (garage door) problem, I hope. Had to put a couple of bolts right through the door. Not elegant engineering, but it works -- so far. Total investment: $3.18. Sca (talk) 23:51, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, Warszawa... Sca (talk) 23:54, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. How about a User:Sca/Sandbox II ? Hafspajen (talk) 00:14, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I mean one can do whatever one wants in a sandbox. Man, you want article winter. SOMEWHERE it has to be where we BOTH can reach it. Hafspajen (talk) 10:02, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Sca (talk) 13:43, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good. Hafspajen (talk) 13:54, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]